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Ace Acme

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14. Fantasizing about what's in my mind is all you can do?

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 06:14 PM

Nov 2013

What makes you so emotional about your imperial navy?

You'd better examine that. My point is that it's wrong to feel warm fuzzies about the criminal enterprise that the US Navy has become.

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US, British warships help distribute relief goods [View all] brooklynite Nov 2013 OP

Excellent use of warships. mahannah Nov 2013 #1

It's so heartwarming that the imperial war machine can have this propaganda opportunity. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #2

Uncalled for. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #3

These warships are there for the assertion of naked aggressive power nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #6

Bullshit. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #8

Bullshit yourself. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #11

What are the specific steps the British military is doing which leads you to believe this is merely LanternWaste Nov 2013 #22

I didn't say it was "merely propaganda". I said it was propaganda. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #23

Hence, lacking any substantive citations to support your premise, it's merely editorial on your part LanternWaste Nov 2013 #24

You'd expect better sourcing for the fact that the relief effort is a propaganda opportunity? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #25

I imagine that may be the best rationalization we receive regarding your allegation... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #26

I'm not angry about disagreement. I am angry about the glorification of that criminal enterprise, Ace Acme Nov 2013 #27

so you are okay with the royal navy then loli phabay Nov 2013 #40

What gives you that idea? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #41

yeah all twenty or so of the royal navys frigates, destroyers and landing ships. loli phabay Nov 2013 #46

But all those countries have navies that could lend help, don't they? n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #49

The Spanish Navy can't help in the Philippines if all the Spanish ships are in Spanish ports. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #50

Actually they can.....it's called leaving port. n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #51

And how many weeks would it be before Spanish ships could respond? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #53

Which is what ships do, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #82

Not really, no, the USA, UK, and France have pretty much the only blue-water navies on earth Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #81

Not really... EX500rider Nov 2013 #87

You forgot those war-mongering Brazilians! Ace Acme Nov 2013 #88

Or the Brazilians could send this: EX500rider Nov 2013 #89

Ooh, scary! That ship is 50 years old and was bought from France for $12 million-- Ace Acme Nov 2013 #90

It's called "thread disruption" and he's working it up and down this thread. MADem Nov 2013 #36

I apologize for being combative. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #37

All of that happened a half century ago, and has nothing to do with this thread. MADem Nov 2013 #38

It has everything to do with this thread. JFK had good reason to be proud. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #39

Well, that's total horseshit, but thanks for playing. MADem Nov 2013 #42

As I said, JFK was an advocate of total disarmament Ace Acme Nov 2013 #43

No he wasn't. Like I said, enjoy your visit. MADem Nov 2013 #44

JFK was an advocate of total disarmament Ace Acme Nov 2013 #47

Oh please. He's addressing the UN in your little cherry-picked example. MADem Nov 2013 #52

JFK is addressing the UN and advocating total disarmament, yes. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #54

Not unilateral disarmament, but you sorta missed that bit. MADem Nov 2013 #55

Total != unilateral. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #56

I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, either. MADem Nov 2013 #57

What compels you to trash the legacy of JFK? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #59

Not trashing, and no, he didn't--not with your definition of "total." MADem Nov 2013 #61

So JFK's speech to the UN is a conspiracy theory? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #62

You can't read, that's pretty obvious. But congratulate yourself--you have shown yourself to be MADem Nov 2013 #63

No conspiracy theory. JFK advocated total disarmanent. Fact. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #64

Stop destroying this thread with your bullshit. This isn't a CT topic. MADem Nov 2013 #65

Why are you trashing JFK's legacy by labeling it "CT"? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #66

Stop talking ragtime and behaving in a disruptive manner. nt MADem Nov 2013 #68

Stop trashing JFK and refusing to explain yourself Ace Acme Nov 2013 #69

Nobody's trashing JFK, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #70

MADem is trashing JFK's legacy when he denies it. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #72

MADem is in no way trashing JFK's legacy, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #73

Denying the fact that JFK advocated total disarmament is trashing his legacy. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #74

Once again, you're trying to hijack the thread Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #80

I didn't say they were doing it for propaganda purposes. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #86

I'm not buying his outrage... It comes off as too much of caricature penultimate Nov 2013 #75

Right. So much more fun to psychoanalyze the messenger Ace Acme Nov 2013 #76

+1 nt MADem Nov 2013 #77

And it's also heartwarming that some on the left would rather see geek tragedy Nov 2013 #4

I didn't say that. I just object to the portrayal of the imperial navy as "there to help". Ace Acme Nov 2013 #7

You said it was an "assertion of naked aggressive power." geek tragedy Nov 2013 #9

I didn't say the humanitarian aid was an "assertion of naked aggressive power." Ace Acme Nov 2013 #12

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Fantasizing about what's in my mind is all you can do? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #14

I don't fantasize over empty spaces. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #15

This is exactly the spot and your emotionalism shows I've scored a direct hit. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #16

"the criminal enterprise that the US Navy has become." EX500rider Nov 2013 #18

Criminal enterprises don't get convicted. They do plea bargains, and sacrifice patsies. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #19

And which crimes did the USN commit? n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #20

Complicity in acts of aggressive war and murder of civilians by the US military. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #21

Well gee aren't you complicit also by paying for the whole thing? EX500rider Nov 2013 #45

What makes you think I'm paying for it? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #48

So if a Army squad kills some civilians.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #58

The Navy is not a dishwasher. Get real. The Navy provides material support. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #60

A Navy dishwasher is an enlisted man who washes the dishes on board a ship Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #71

Tell me about it. MADem Nov 2013 #28

Vitriol about aggressive wars and murder of civilians makes no sense? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #30

I live in a universe where military forces are, regrettably, necessary. MADem Nov 2013 #33

Necessary for what? To keep the Mexicans and the Canadians from invading? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #34

Obtuse as well as rude, I see. MADem Nov 2013 #35

nwor nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #67

No, I'll tell you - the Singapore and Malaysian goverments invited the Royal Navy ship muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #78

Ships go places for reasons. Our ships go places to engage in intimidation and global domination. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #79

Not the first time the Royal Navy has done good. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #10

They outlawed the external trade, but internally the trade went on many years. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #17

Well, never mind that the Brits made a massive FORTUNE off slave trading, before MADem Nov 2013 #29

And the Brits sided with the South in the Civil War nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #31

If the south had won, I suspect they wouldn't have felt so squeamish about subjugating their fellow MADem Nov 2013 #32

No they did not hack89 Nov 2013 #83

Officially neutral. In practice, Brits ran Union blockades to supply munitions to the Rebs. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #84

They sold munitions to both sides. hack89 Nov 2013 #85

OK, my mistake. I knew they supplied arms to the Rebs, and assumed that was siding with them. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #91

I had this visual that there will be so many of these BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #5