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35. Obtuse as well as rude, I see.

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 06:54 PM

Nov 2013

You want to talk military strategy, now, Skippy?

You start your OWN thread on the topic--stop shitting on this OP, which deals with a natural disaster and the humanitarian response to it.

Keep it up--we know them by their words around here.

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US, British warships help distribute relief goods [View all] brooklynite Nov 2013 OP

Excellent use of warships. mahannah Nov 2013 #1

It's so heartwarming that the imperial war machine can have this propaganda opportunity. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #2

Uncalled for. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #3

These warships are there for the assertion of naked aggressive power nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #6

Bullshit. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #8

Bullshit yourself. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #11

What are the specific steps the British military is doing which leads you to believe this is merely LanternWaste Nov 2013 #22

I didn't say it was "merely propaganda". I said it was propaganda. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #23

Hence, lacking any substantive citations to support your premise, it's merely editorial on your part LanternWaste Nov 2013 #24

You'd expect better sourcing for the fact that the relief effort is a propaganda opportunity? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #25

I imagine that may be the best rationalization we receive regarding your allegation... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #26

I'm not angry about disagreement. I am angry about the glorification of that criminal enterprise, Ace Acme Nov 2013 #27

so you are okay with the royal navy then loli phabay Nov 2013 #40

What gives you that idea? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #41

yeah all twenty or so of the royal navys frigates, destroyers and landing ships. loli phabay Nov 2013 #46

But all those countries have navies that could lend help, don't they? n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #49

The Spanish Navy can't help in the Philippines if all the Spanish ships are in Spanish ports. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #50

Actually they can.....it's called leaving port. n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #51

And how many weeks would it be before Spanish ships could respond? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #53

Which is what ships do, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #82

Not really, no, the USA, UK, and France have pretty much the only blue-water navies on earth Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #81

Not really... EX500rider Nov 2013 #87

You forgot those war-mongering Brazilians! Ace Acme Nov 2013 #88

Or the Brazilians could send this: EX500rider Nov 2013 #89

Ooh, scary! That ship is 50 years old and was bought from France for $12 million-- Ace Acme Nov 2013 #90

It's called "thread disruption" and he's working it up and down this thread. MADem Nov 2013 #36

I apologize for being combative. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #37

All of that happened a half century ago, and has nothing to do with this thread. MADem Nov 2013 #38

It has everything to do with this thread. JFK had good reason to be proud. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #39

Well, that's total horseshit, but thanks for playing. MADem Nov 2013 #42

As I said, JFK was an advocate of total disarmament Ace Acme Nov 2013 #43

No he wasn't. Like I said, enjoy your visit. MADem Nov 2013 #44

JFK was an advocate of total disarmament Ace Acme Nov 2013 #47

Oh please. He's addressing the UN in your little cherry-picked example. MADem Nov 2013 #52

JFK is addressing the UN and advocating total disarmament, yes. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #54

Not unilateral disarmament, but you sorta missed that bit. MADem Nov 2013 #55

Total != unilateral. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #56

I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, either. MADem Nov 2013 #57

What compels you to trash the legacy of JFK? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #59

Not trashing, and no, he didn't--not with your definition of "total." MADem Nov 2013 #61

So JFK's speech to the UN is a conspiracy theory? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #62

You can't read, that's pretty obvious. But congratulate yourself--you have shown yourself to be MADem Nov 2013 #63

No conspiracy theory. JFK advocated total disarmanent. Fact. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #64

Stop destroying this thread with your bullshit. This isn't a CT topic. MADem Nov 2013 #65

Why are you trashing JFK's legacy by labeling it "CT"? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #66

Stop talking ragtime and behaving in a disruptive manner. nt MADem Nov 2013 #68

Stop trashing JFK and refusing to explain yourself Ace Acme Nov 2013 #69

Nobody's trashing JFK, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #70

MADem is trashing JFK's legacy when he denies it. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #72

MADem is in no way trashing JFK's legacy, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #73

Denying the fact that JFK advocated total disarmament is trashing his legacy. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #74

Once again, you're trying to hijack the thread Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #80

I didn't say they were doing it for propaganda purposes. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #86

I'm not buying his outrage... It comes off as too much of caricature penultimate Nov 2013 #75

Right. So much more fun to psychoanalyze the messenger Ace Acme Nov 2013 #76

+1 nt MADem Nov 2013 #77

And it's also heartwarming that some on the left would rather see geek tragedy Nov 2013 #4

I didn't say that. I just object to the portrayal of the imperial navy as "there to help". Ace Acme Nov 2013 #7

You said it was an "assertion of naked aggressive power." geek tragedy Nov 2013 #9

I didn't say the humanitarian aid was an "assertion of naked aggressive power." Ace Acme Nov 2013 #12

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Fantasizing about what's in my mind is all you can do? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #14

I don't fantasize over empty spaces. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #15

This is exactly the spot and your emotionalism shows I've scored a direct hit. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #16

"the criminal enterprise that the US Navy has become." EX500rider Nov 2013 #18

Criminal enterprises don't get convicted. They do plea bargains, and sacrifice patsies. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #19

And which crimes did the USN commit? n/t EX500rider Nov 2013 #20

Complicity in acts of aggressive war and murder of civilians by the US military. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #21

Well gee aren't you complicit also by paying for the whole thing? EX500rider Nov 2013 #45

What makes you think I'm paying for it? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #48

So if a Army squad kills some civilians.. EX500rider Nov 2013 #58

The Navy is not a dishwasher. Get real. The Navy provides material support. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #60

A Navy dishwasher is an enlisted man who washes the dishes on board a ship Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #71

Tell me about it. MADem Nov 2013 #28

Vitriol about aggressive wars and murder of civilians makes no sense? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #30

I live in a universe where military forces are, regrettably, necessary. MADem Nov 2013 #33

Necessary for what? To keep the Mexicans and the Canadians from invading? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #34

Obtuse as well as rude, I see. MADem Nov 2013 #35

nwor nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #67

No, I'll tell you - the Singapore and Malaysian goverments invited the Royal Navy ship muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #78

Ships go places for reasons. Our ships go places to engage in intimidation and global domination. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #79

Not the first time the Royal Navy has done good. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #10

They outlawed the external trade, but internally the trade went on many years. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #17

Well, never mind that the Brits made a massive FORTUNE off slave trading, before MADem Nov 2013 #29

And the Brits sided with the South in the Civil War nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #31

If the south had won, I suspect they wouldn't have felt so squeamish about subjugating their fellow MADem Nov 2013 #32

No they did not hack89 Nov 2013 #83

Officially neutral. In practice, Brits ran Union blockades to supply munitions to the Rebs. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #84

They sold munitions to both sides. hack89 Nov 2013 #85

OK, my mistake. I knew they supplied arms to the Rebs, and assumed that was siding with them. nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #91

I had this visual that there will be so many of these BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #5