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happyslug

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61. The problem is how to integrate exercise with most people's life styles
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:23 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)

In the days of olde, before we learned we needed Statins, people use to do PHYSICAL work 6-8 hours a day. That is the level of exercise your body NEEDS. Today most people are no where near that level of exercise.

This difference can be seen in the The National Associations of Letter Carriers (NALC) health insurance policy. Do to the increased level of health of Carriers because the Carriers are walking 6-8 hours a day, the NALC Health program was expanded to include grandchildren who live with grandparents (providing the parents of the child does not live with the Carrier). I have NEVER seen that in any other health insurance plan. The reason for this difference is because the NALC could do the change given the much lower level of health problems of their members who walk their routes 6-8 hours a day (They drive to the routes and drive from block to block, but they also walk those blocks).

You do not see that level of exercise in most other jobs today (and where you do similar low rates come into play). Even the police tend to drive cars NOT walk a beat. Most truck drivers are NOT required to load or unload their trucks (Most do help loading and unloading the truck, but such assistance is NOT what you are paying for when you hire a truck). Given this lack of loading and unloading most truck driving is minimal exercise. Most of the people who unload trucks tend to do so only for 1-2 hours a day, and most of the people who load them tend to use forklifts (I know they are exceptions to this rule, thus my use of the word "Most&quot .

Side note: The above comment on truck driving is for commercial trucks, i.e. tractor trailers. Local delivery trucks drivers do load and unload their trucks. More physical work then over the road truck drivers and for that reason tend to be healthier.

We also drive to and from work. Now they has been a boom in people biking to work, but biking is still lower then walking to work and both COMBINED are still in single digits (and we do not see most people who walk to work for they walk on sidewalks and thus "Commute" from a house in the inner city and to a job in the inner city).

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2013/10/us-cities-where-fewest-commuters-get-work-car/7390/
http://www.census.gov/hhes/commuting/files/2009/means_of_transportation.pdf

Thus compared to out Great Grandparents of the WWII and prior generation, we do less outside. This reduction in physical work and put our body under the less pressure then bodies of our ancestors were under. Today, we wake up, get in the car, go to work, work by being in one place most of the time (this can be an office or behind a counter), drive back home, eat and go to sleep.

Compared that to a farmer of olde (not of today, even most farmers today use a lot of equipment that only requires them to sit), the farmer woke up, ate then went to the field and did 6 to 8 hours of labor including moving around. That farmer WALKED everywhere he or she had to go. Once they arrived where they were going, they did a quick transaction OR some long term work that required moving around. The closest we get to this today is if you are a retail worker in a store and your job is loading the shelves with heavy can goods all day long. In the days of the Horse, farmers walked behind the Horse when plowing, not as today's farmers who tend to ride in the tractor. This is more true of the larger commercial farms then smaller farms.

Think about it, do you drive to work?, your work?, your drive home?, near anywhere what people did just 60 years ago? (Most people in urban areas prior to WWII, WALKED to work, driving to work is a post WWII movement for most people, you had some people driving to work prior to WWII, but most people did not). People would walk up to an hour to get to work, and most work required manual labor, thus constant movement for eight hours. I do not mean movement of your hands and arms while you work a cash register or a computer, I mean actual physical Labor. No heavy lifting, but constant movement not only of your arms but your legs and the rest of your body. Some jobs required heavy labor, but most even in the 1920s and 1930s did not.

The stay at home mothers were also active, the Automatic Washer was invented in 1948, but took another 20 years before it became the washer used in most households. The older winger washers required a lot of physical labor on the operator to clean the clothes (And did a better job cleaning clothes, thus wives of farmers, miners and steel workers kept using them long after everyone else was using Automatic Washers).'

Furthermore, the "Housewife" of historical fame only really existed in the 1950s, it was NOT the norm after the 1960s and was NOT the norm prior to WWII, for most women worked. Now, for those women who did NOT work outside the home, they had to do a lot of running around for the family (and their husband). In the days before cars (i.e. before the 1950s) that meant walking and if she purchased anything lugging it home. When most people where in the farm, women worked. The family's children may be all around her, but she worked both inside the house and outside the house on the farm, only part of that work was to watch the children.

The above is mentioned for one of the problems we have today is the lack of exercise. You can NOT make exercise a separate activity in your life, for when most people do so, it is the activity that is cut out when it comes in conflict with any other activity. Thus the best way to get exercise is the way our ancestors did, by integrating exercise with the rest of our activities. Walk or ride a bike to work for example (Which may require people to move, for most people today live to far from their work to walk or bike to work) is the best way to integrate exercise into the rest of your daily activities. Walk to another office to talk to someone, instead of using the phone. Opt to do something manually instead of by a machine, just for the exercise (Some employers will not like this, they want the productivity of the machine over the manual method, but in some cases the difference is minor).

The problem with high cholesterol can be tied in with lack of exercise then any other single factor (including diet). Our body is designed to do PHYSICAL LABOR, not type on a keyboard. Our brain is tuned to adjust our thinking to how our body is acting and reacting to what we our doing with our bodies. Our body ASSUMES we will be doing a lot of heavy labor EVERY DAY and is geared to that level of usage and fluid flows. Cholesterol is a quick source of energy when we need it, thus our body makes it SO THE BODY CAN USE IT WHEN NEEDED. We have to use our body so its does use that cholesterol and that requires us to do more the a couple hours of exercise a day.

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I have heard others say this too--it's bullying, really. MADem Nov 2013 #64
You've "heard?" And then you go with the classic naturalistic fallacy. HuckleB Nov 2013 #103
Doctors are NOT always right. You can scold me all the live-long day, but I will not be MADem Nov 2013 #104
Doctors are not always right. HuckleB Nov 2013 #105
Well, I didn't realize I had to provide a frigging peer reviewed article for your journal, there. MADem Nov 2013 #107
You "heard" is shorthand for BS. HuckleB Nov 2013 #108
Yes, and your answer to anything you don't like is a rude and dismissive "BS." MADem Nov 2013 #111
Blah. Blah. Blah. HuckleB Nov 2013 #114
Ha! I rest my case. MADem Nov 2013 #115
You have no case. HuckleB Nov 2013 #122
Listen to you. MADem Nov 2013 #123
Please read and respond to post#75. Indi Guy Nov 2013 #109
Post 75 is a heckuva Gish Gallop. HuckleB Nov 2013 #110
Word. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #118
Absolutely! ronnie624 Nov 2013 #71
Just like margerine was going to make us healthy. kickysnana Nov 2013 #3
Memory/forgetfulness problems are extremely bad with Statins. JimDandy Nov 2013 #36
So are severe muscle pains and stiffness. Psephos Nov 2013 #50
I had nearly debilitating cramps while on my statin. I stopped them within days. Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #53
Persons having asymptomatic plaque in the right carotid artery are the real candidates DhhD Nov 2013 #69
How about wider use of better diets? villager Nov 2013 #4
Doctors always push better diet and more exercise. HuckleB Nov 2013 #5
Thank you. Aristus Nov 2013 #9
Exactly. HuckleB Nov 2013 #16
Oh cool! Aristus Nov 2013 #31
Stay FAR away from that junk Iwasthere Nov 2013 #11
Baloney. HuckleB Nov 2013 #14
I agree. No matter what the conditions, most doctors start with conservative approaches, diet, lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #55
Most DR start with Conservative Treatment? My Dr started me on a Statin day one. happyslug Nov 2013 #62
An anecdote does not change the term "most." HuckleB Nov 2013 #89
This is uncalled for. CanSocDem Nov 2013 #65
+1 nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #86
This from one of the great anti-science conspiracy theorists at DU. HuckleB Nov 2013 #90
You mis-characterize me. CanSocDem Nov 2013 #98
Nice PR attempt. HuckleB Nov 2013 #102
I guess that doesn't make the news the way the drug pushing does? villager Nov 2013 #58
You mean like all the crap NDs push on patients? HuckleB Nov 2013 #106
I meant like all the crap your beloved pharmaceutical companies push on patients villager Nov 2013 #112
but doctors have been wrong so many times demigoddess Nov 2013 #99
Anecdotes are so cool. HuckleB Nov 2013 #100
Exactly my thoughts too. Let's promote fruit and vegetables & end GMOs that are poisoning the mother earth Nov 2013 #8
Doctors already push good diet and exercise. HuckleB Nov 2013 #15
Really? Tell that to the bees that are dying from GMO corn with built in insecticide, and let mother earth Nov 2013 #88
The problem is how to integrate exercise with most people's life styles happyslug Nov 2013 #61
Brilliant writing there, happyslug. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #124
It needed a good editing happyslug Nov 2013 #129
Good advice Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #130
May help for some enlightenment Nov 2013 #77
Your cholesterol load is only about 10% dietary Warpy Nov 2013 #101
Not just no. Hell no. Xithras Nov 2013 #7
I do take statins ailsagirl Nov 2013 #10
I take Lipitor. Amazingly 840high Nov 2013 #34
Really amazing stuff ailsagirl Nov 2013 #38
157?? I be kicking in the street for that low level happyslug Nov 2013 #63
I confess I am on the maximum dose (80 mg) ailsagirl Nov 2013 #78
I am on the max Dose of Lipitor, Tircor, Zetia and Niacin happyslug Nov 2013 #84
That's odd-- what does your doctor say? ailsagirl Nov 2013 #85
I have the rarest type of high Cholesterol, happyslug Nov 2013 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2013 #97
Wasn't there a recent study showing no link between cholesterol levels and heart attack rates? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #12
There have been a few of them. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #44
Aren't those the drugs I see ads for all the time... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #13
"Side effects include cessation of breathing,uncontrollable urge to gamble, increased use of Depends Divernan Nov 2013 #19
There ws a discussion about these meds here at DU some years back. truedelphi Nov 2013 #57
Ask your doctor if Vaxadrone™ is right for you. klook Nov 2013 #24
Dr. Colbert scores again! classof56 Nov 2013 #93
Bob, the drug I would worry about is the one that will give one menstrual pain... Thor_MN Nov 2013 #49
Oh, I'm not worried about that... bobclark86 Nov 2013 #52
I don't suppose it has occurred to them to urge wider use of a low-fat vegan diet....... kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #17
Most patients refuse to make the slightest change in diet and exercise. HuckleB Nov 2013 #23
Most patients are idiots. No wonder this planet is in such trouble. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #26
And they're lucky you're not their doctor. HuckleB Nov 2013 #29
I'd be homicidal if I had become a physician and had to deal with the crap those poor souls do. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #76
Red herring? It's the truth. bitchkitty Nov 2013 #94
It's not the animal fats. It's the high levels of fructose in the processed diet Paulie Nov 2013 #45
False. Saturated fats >>>>> elevated blood cholesterol. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #73
Animal fats are not a problem. Psephos Nov 2013 #51
False. Saturated fats >>>>> elevated blood cholesterol. Refined carbs are also terrible. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #74
Science has moved on. Psephos Nov 2013 #79
Patents are expiring; so Big Pharma/Med dramatically jacks up the numbers of prescriptions! Divernan Nov 2013 #18
Conspriracy BS is so cool. HuckleB Nov 2013 #22
"The wrong question is being asked." - Dr. Dean Ornish klook Nov 2013 #20
Statins can be dangerous. earthside Nov 2013 #21
You can find any opinion you want to find online or in a book. HuckleB Nov 2013 #25
Well knock me over with a feather. earthside Nov 2013 #35
That's because you're so used to pushing it, and seeing it, and no one bothered to inform you. HuckleB Nov 2013 #39
Condescending to be sure. earthside Nov 2013 #41
And you're pushing anti-science BS on the Internet. HuckleB Nov 2013 #43
Critique the argument then. earthside Nov 2013 #46
You've made no argument. HuckleB Nov 2013 #91
The only way to be open minded JackRiddler Nov 2013 #117
Thanks for mentioning that book. truedelphi Nov 2013 #59
FDA Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #125
With diet and exercise, drugs aren't necessary aristocles Nov 2013 #27
It works for a lot of people. HuckleB Nov 2013 #30
Baloney! Lugnut Nov 2013 #28
No Effing Way!!!!!! VA_Jill Nov 2013 #32
INSANITY grasswire Nov 2013 #33
That's why Sgent Nov 2013 #40
curcumin, coconut oil, fish oil BuddhaGirl Nov 2013 #47
Meanwhile...Ranbaxy stops generic Lipitor production amid recall for tiny glass particles" dflprincess Nov 2013 #42
Zocor made me sick Mz Pip Nov 2013 #48
Business week did an excellent article about this a few years ago arikara Nov 2013 #54
boycott cruelty veganlush Nov 2013 #60
35 years ago my Dad was put on a special diet HockeyMom Nov 2013 #66
Grain Brain RussBLib Nov 2013 #70
Big pharma urges Doctors to Urge wider use...of Lipitor and Zocor from Pfizer and Merck...nt Evasporque Nov 2013 #67
I'm so cynical. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #68
Seems to me that I recall..... llmart Nov 2013 #72
They probably ate a healthier diet and exercised a lot more leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #80
Big Pharma has been telling us BIG LIES for decades... Indi Guy Nov 2013 #75
My doctor is very science based goldent Nov 2013 #81
"Roughly half the cholesterol panel members have financial ties to makers of heart drugs" flvegan Nov 2013 #82
NEXT: Doctors recommend putting statins in drinking water. jsr Nov 2013 #83
Yo, some DUers! THe plural of anecdote is not data. (Stop Pretending That It Is.) HuckleB Nov 2013 #92
Worse, some of the "Side affects" is the drug making you "normal" happyslug Nov 2013 #95
Side effects can happen for anything, including food. HuckleB Nov 2013 #96
"Data" is not synonym for truth. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #119
Red herrings don't turn BS into reality. HuckleB Nov 2013 #121
You challenge nothing. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #127
Ok so today I learn that I have LDL of 134 flamingdem Nov 2013 #113
Go to this website and download the calculator (red button on the right). winter is coming Nov 2013 #120
Not really.. sendero Nov 2013 #116
Glad to see the science haters alive and well. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #126
What about doctors who don't trust other doctors? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #128
I'll stick with consensus ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #132
I don't get medical advice from those sources. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #133
statin drugs should be over the counter and cheap Sunlei Nov 2013 #131
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