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joeglow3

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18. The issue isn't with negotiations

Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:20 PM

Nov 2013

Unless the company dropped health insurance altogether, this is NOT an issue.

The crux of the plans being dropped had to do with the coverages people wanted. For instance, United already has negotiated with all their medical providers. They just need to remove pregnancy coverage from the plan of the the 25 year old male who doesn't want it.

That said, this severely weakens the healthcare plan. The crux of it working was spreading the costs among those who don't need those coverages. Without the influx of people subsidizing pregnancy care, expect the plans offering it (to both males and females) to shoot up. This could be the beginning of the end for Obamacare.

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White House to allow insurers to continue canceled plans, says official [View all] OhioChick Nov 2013 OP

Dumb. gvstn Nov 2013 #1

Oh yippee, all the people who love those crap plans frazzled Nov 2013 #2

my aunt was told by her insurer that they didn't cover her inhalers any more "because of Obamacare" renate Nov 2013 #23

Are you saying the Obama Bronze plan isn't a crap plan? Mysterysouppe Nov 2013 #31

I hope they limit that to existing policyholders continuing on, and not selling the same policies TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #3

Seems like a decent solution Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #4

Allow, but not force. OK, this fixes about as many things as the Upton plan. Mass Nov 2013 #5

I don't know that anyone has had a break in coverage yet, therefore I don't know why TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #6

They received cancellation notice. If the company decides not to renew the policy, Mass Nov 2013 #7

Do you know that this ISN'T roughly the Landrieu plan? I hadn't heard that yet. TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #9

If the reporting above is correct, it is not. Mass Nov 2013 #10

The policies no longer exist. former9thward Nov 2013 #13

If they no longer exist, and there was no way to renew, I'd think they'd be looking at other TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #14

That fix has also been suggested. former9thward Nov 2013 #16

The issue isn't with negotiations joeglow3 Nov 2013 #18

It is my understanding that the current policies were good at least until the end of 2013. peace13 Nov 2013 #21

Absolutely RobinA Nov 2013 #26

These junk policies won't be canceled until January 1, 2014. BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #8

Damn fax! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #17

Hopefully a lot of folks will look at what they have and opt for better coverage. Hoyt Nov 2013 #11

Why would a single male opt for pregnancy coverage? joeglow3 Nov 2013 #19

Because it's cheaper leftynyc Nov 2013 #22

But, he could still get those things and leave out pregnancy coverage joeglow3 Nov 2013 #24

Look at it like this leftynyc Nov 2013 #25

I agree completely with you joeglow3 Nov 2013 #33

If he's barely scraping by leftynyc Nov 2013 #36

I think smokers should pay christx30 Nov 2013 #43

They do leftynyc Nov 2013 #45

For the same reason a woman pays for one's erectile dysfunction. Hoyt Nov 2013 #28

Do you think we should be paying more for taxes? joeglow3 Nov 2013 #32

Actually you are jus. Nitpicking. Try looking at big picture and what is important. Hoyt Nov 2013 #44

Nobody gets screwed more leftynyc Nov 2013 #46

I am not debating if we should joeglow3 Nov 2013 #47

Now you're just being combative leftynyc Nov 2013 #48

he should outline that today in his speech warrior1 Nov 2013 #12

Thank you Mr. President! Iliyah Nov 2013 #15

Finally some common sense Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #20

Sure, Obama may "allow" insurers to continue the "Beater" plans Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #27

I hope Obamacare collapses. It doesn't deserve to survive. Mysterysouppe Nov 2013 #29

nothing means we go to woo medicine and self treatment right? snooper2 Nov 2013 #35

That's what happens under the Bronze Plan. Mysterysouppe Nov 2013 #37

I agree Joey Liberal Nov 2013 #38

Isn't this what Clinton was suggesting and he got clobbered for it? Beacool Nov 2013 #30

Yes, Hillarycare=Obamacare=Romneycare. A mandatory subsidy for Big Insurance. Mysterysouppe Nov 2013 #34

We all know that the plans these people want to keep are crappy, but let them keep them. Beacool Nov 2013 #39

Lower priced Obamacare plans are crappy plans. Mysterysouppe Nov 2013 #40

Well, but them are the choices. Beacool Nov 2013 #42

Washington Post report: alp227 Nov 2013 #41

with the caveat that folks can't start buying fake TeaBagger $1.00 plans now to get out of joining tomm2thumbs Nov 2013 #49