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Lasher

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8. The Pentagon's Biggest Overrun: Way Too Many Generals
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013
Thursday, 05 January 2012 04:06
By Dina Rasor, Truthout | Solutions


Defense Secretary Leon Panetta will lay out a plan today to cut the Pentagon's budget as required by the White House and the Congress. He isn't happy about it and has complained bitterly in the media about hollowing out the military, and he has had help from the top generals in the Department of Defense (DoD) to give him backup.

However, studies that I started years ago show that there are way too many generals for troops, planes and ships and these generals also make sure that their turf and positions are protected. They are costing us far more than their high salaries, retirements and perks; they are using their positions to protect the status quo in the military.

Ironically, they are fighting budget cuts that would take them, in constant dollars, back to 2007 levels of spending. To put that in historic perspective, the DoD budget has nearly doubled since 9/11.

So, how many military brass do we have compared to past years? We have the most ever since World War II. In 1982, when I was running the Project on Military Procurement, one of my sources suggested to me that I do research on how many top officers we had for our troops, planes and ships. My report showed a steady increase since World War II, especially since the number of planes and ships were decreasing due to cost, while the number of generals were increasing. Over the years, my former organization, now known as the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) (for full disclosure, I am on POGO's board of directors and serve as treasurer), has redone the report several times, and the brass continues to grow as we get fewer and fewer weapons. The biggest growth was with three- and four-star generals, which POGO has dubbed "star creep." POGO's Ben Freeman recently testified to the Congress in September on how bad the problem had gotten.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/5920:the-pentagons-biggest-overrun-way-too-many-generals


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I doubt any of them are volunteering cuts to their own pay Scootaloo Nov 2013 #1
Generals and Admirals live like Arab Sheiks. JaneQPublic Nov 2013 #45
You said it well dballance Nov 2013 #2
Many enlisted personnel are already on food stamps as it is KamaAina Nov 2013 #3
Nearly all enlisted qualify Scairp Nov 2013 #21
Would make a nice little vignette KamaAina Nov 2013 #22
Well, they were on food stamps. That will probably get "fixed", too. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #24
Yeah, that'll win wars. RC Nov 2013 #56
Or they could buy ten fewer F-35s and give all active personnel an extra $1500... (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #4
The generals don't care about what happens Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #5
Start with the generals and admirals!! lastlib Nov 2013 #6
I'm frankly surprised they just don't pull prisoners & force them to enlist for free tomm2thumbs Nov 2013 #7
During the 60's, Viet Nam era, they did give some men that choice. RC Nov 2013 #57
The Pentagon's Biggest Overrun: Way Too Many Generals Lasher Nov 2013 #8
Paygrade creep has been a problem for awhile. It got really bad under Bush. MADem Nov 2013 #26
It's not about strategic need. It is about maintaining a posh high society. Ash_F Nov 2013 #53
Figures. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #9
replace private contractors with active duty troops and give them a raise...will still cost less nt msongs Nov 2013 #10
It would cost far more which is why the military uses private contractors. former9thward Nov 2013 #13
Military pay vs. contract workers salimbag Nov 2013 #23
See, in today's military, you would never have been hired without a real job and a MADem Nov 2013 #28
Food for thought: Are Private Contractors Really Cheaper? Lasher Nov 2013 #32
The article is correct. It's all down to what DoD does NOT have to pay out. MADem Nov 2013 #37
It's more complicated than that, as I'm sure you are aware. Lasher Nov 2013 #41
They're subject to civilian law--which can be problematic if you're working in a place with MADem Nov 2013 #48
All true. As the former wife of a former Army officer, I am totally familiar with this. ancianita Nov 2013 #34
Of course the pay is higher salimbag Nov 2013 #49
They don't WANT to recruit people for support. It's cheaper to hire them as needed. MADem Nov 2013 #52
+1--seems more expensive in the short term, but over time it saves a bundle. MADem Nov 2013 #27
The employer's cost of benefits is in the price billed to the military. SharonAnn Nov 2013 #46
The reason any employer uses contractors is because it is cheaper. former9thward Nov 2013 #47
yeah, cut pay and benefits to people serving.... olddad56 Nov 2013 #11
Oh.... the South (and their rep.s - mostly Repubs) are not going to like that underpants Nov 2013 #12
The end result will probably be that they'll slow cost of living increases--they've already been MADem Nov 2013 #29
I was in the Army during the first downsizing underpants Nov 2013 #31
I survived that mess, too--I was in a job where I was difficult to replace. MADem Nov 2013 #38
Yeah underpants Nov 2013 #39
If you ever do find it, bring it back! MADem Nov 2013 #43
Thanks for informing everyone of middle and lower level shafting. Military brass seem to follow the ancianita Nov 2013 #35
It is a sad fact that the places they make the cuts affect the lower/mid pay grades more than the MADem Nov 2013 #40
But we need more multi-million dollar war machines Ash_F Nov 2013 #14
Fucking scumbag Generals hardtravelin Nov 2013 #15
Congrats tazkcmo Nov 2013 #54
oddly, they are only doing what Congress is telling them to do pasto76 Nov 2013 #16
guest workers hollowdweller Nov 2013 #17
The brass should prove its leadership quality and undergo its own austerity program. ancianita Nov 2013 #18
The main problem is NobodyHere Nov 2013 #19
The "brass" has PLEADED with Congress to not spend money on bullshit in the past--and CONGRESS does MADem Nov 2013 #30
Thank you for the links. I stand corrected, though the brass have the power to use/not use ancianita Nov 2013 #33
Here's the problem with not utilizing contracts, and let's use the "grass cutting on the base" one MADem Nov 2013 #42
The military doesn't say anything, or point fingers, because "civilian control of the military" is a MADem Nov 2013 #44
Well at least they aren't weaning themselves off contractors, because that would be terrible. nt killbotfactory Nov 2013 #20
Shrinking Pentagon budgets? Mnpaul Nov 2013 #25
Outsource to China Blandocyte Nov 2013 #36
My bet is pay and benefits will largely remain at their current level in the end cstanleytech Nov 2013 #50
My guess is that base pay and benefits will remain static. Kaleva Nov 2013 #51
What a surprising response. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #55
Soldiers must suffer to protect the profiteers! tabasco Nov 2013 #58
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