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14. But we need more multi-million dollar war machines

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Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:18 PM

Nov 2013

...to kill olive farmers living in mudbrick huts.

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Top military chiefs: Cut pay and benefits [View all] IDemo Nov 2013 OP

I doubt any of them are volunteering cuts to their own pay Scootaloo Nov 2013 #1

Generals and Admirals live like Arab Sheiks. JaneQPublic Nov 2013 #45

You said it well dballance Nov 2013 #2

Many enlisted personnel are already on food stamps as it is KamaAina Nov 2013 #3

Nearly all enlisted qualify Scairp Nov 2013 #21

Would make a nice little vignette KamaAina Nov 2013 #22

Well, they were on food stamps. That will probably get "fixed", too. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #24

Yeah, that'll win wars. RC Nov 2013 #56

Or they could buy ten fewer F-35s and give all active personnel an extra $1500... (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #4

The generals don't care about what happens Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #5

Start with the generals and admirals!! lastlib Nov 2013 #6

I'm frankly surprised they just don't pull prisoners & force them to enlist for free tomm2thumbs Nov 2013 #7

During the 60's, Viet Nam era, they did give some men that choice. RC Nov 2013 #57

The Pentagon's Biggest Overrun: Way Too Many Generals Lasher Nov 2013 #8

Paygrade creep has been a problem for awhile. It got really bad under Bush. MADem Nov 2013 #26

It's not about strategic need. It is about maintaining a posh high society. Ash_F Nov 2013 #53

Figures. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #9

replace private contractors with active duty troops and give them a raise...will still cost less nt msongs Nov 2013 #10

It would cost far more which is why the military uses private contractors. former9thward Nov 2013 #13

Military pay vs. contract workers salimbag Nov 2013 #23

See, in today's military, you would never have been hired without a real job and a MADem Nov 2013 #28

Food for thought: Are Private Contractors Really Cheaper? Lasher Nov 2013 #32

The article is correct. It's all down to what DoD does NOT have to pay out. MADem Nov 2013 #37

It's more complicated than that, as I'm sure you are aware. Lasher Nov 2013 #41

They're subject to civilian law--which can be problematic if you're working in a place with MADem Nov 2013 #48

All true. As the former wife of a former Army officer, I am totally familiar with this. ancianita Nov 2013 #34

Of course the pay is higher salimbag Nov 2013 #49

They don't WANT to recruit people for support. It's cheaper to hire them as needed. MADem Nov 2013 #52

+1--seems more expensive in the short term, but over time it saves a bundle. MADem Nov 2013 #27

The employer's cost of benefits is in the price billed to the military. SharonAnn Nov 2013 #46

The reason any employer uses contractors is because it is cheaper. former9thward Nov 2013 #47

yeah, cut pay and benefits to people serving.... olddad56 Nov 2013 #11

Oh.... the South (and their rep.s - mostly Repubs) are not going to like that underpants Nov 2013 #12

The end result will probably be that they'll slow cost of living increases--they've already been MADem Nov 2013 #29

I was in the Army during the first downsizing underpants Nov 2013 #31

I survived that mess, too--I was in a job where I was difficult to replace. MADem Nov 2013 #38

Yeah underpants Nov 2013 #39

If you ever do find it, bring it back! MADem Nov 2013 #43

Thanks for informing everyone of middle and lower level shafting. Military brass seem to follow the ancianita Nov 2013 #35

It is a sad fact that the places they make the cuts affect the lower/mid pay grades more than the MADem Nov 2013 #40

But we need more multi-million dollar war machines Ash_F Nov 2013 #14

Fucking scumbag Generals hardtravelin Nov 2013 #15

Congrats tazkcmo Nov 2013 #54

oddly, they are only doing what Congress is telling them to do pasto76 Nov 2013 #16

guest workers hollowdweller Nov 2013 #17

The brass should prove its leadership quality and undergo its own austerity program. ancianita Nov 2013 #18

The main problem is NobodyHere Nov 2013 #19

The "brass" has PLEADED with Congress to not spend money on bullshit in the past--and CONGRESS does MADem Nov 2013 #30

Thank you for the links. I stand corrected, though the brass have the power to use/not use ancianita Nov 2013 #33

Here's the problem with not utilizing contracts, and let's use the "grass cutting on the base" one MADem Nov 2013 #42

The military doesn't say anything, or point fingers, because "civilian control of the military" is a MADem Nov 2013 #44

Well at least they aren't weaning themselves off contractors, because that would be terrible. nt killbotfactory Nov 2013 #20

Shrinking Pentagon budgets? Mnpaul Nov 2013 #25

Outsource to China Blandocyte Nov 2013 #36

My bet is pay and benefits will largely remain at their current level in the end cstanleytech Nov 2013 #50

My guess is that base pay and benefits will remain static. Kaleva Nov 2013 #51

What a surprising response. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #55

Soldiers must suffer to protect the profiteers! tabasco Nov 2013 #58