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jayfish

(10,256 posts)
11. Chemical laced vapor huh?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:17 PM
Nov 2013

Do any data to back up such assertions? Cause I have data that says you're full of it:


Conclusions: For all byproducts measured, electronic cigarettes produce very small exposures relative to tobacco cigarettes. The study indicates no apparent risk to human health from e-cigarette emissions based on the compounds analyzed.



Read More: http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08958378.2012.724728


One of the main ingrediants in e-liquid is propylene glycol. From the EPA on PG:

"Propylene glycol is used in air sanitization and hard surface disinfection and dipropylene glycol is used in air sanitization."

"Propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol were first registered in 1950 and 1959, respectively, by the FDA for use in hospitals as air disinfectants."

"Indoor Non-Food: Propylene glycol is used on the following use sites: air treatment (eating establishments, hospital, commercial, institutional, household, bathroom, transportational facilities); medical premises and equipment, commercial, institutional and industrial premises and equipment; laundry equipment; hard non-porous surface treatments (bathroom facilities); automobiles; air conditioning filters; pet treatment, including cats, dogs, and caged birds; environmental inanimate hard surfaces; garbage containers/storage."

"Target Pests: Odor-causing bacteria, Fleas, Mites, Red lice, Animal pathogenic bacteria (G- and G+ vegetative), Shigella bacteria, Pasteurella bacteria, Listeria bacteria, Herpes Simplex I and II, Animal viruses, Influenza Virus A2, Aspergillus Niger Fungus, Mold/Mildew, Pseudomonas SPP., Shigella Flexneri, Shigella Sonnei."

"General Toxicity Observations:Upon reviewing the available toxicity information, the Agency has concluded that there are no endpoints of concern for oral, dermal, or inhalation exposure to propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol. This conclusion is based on the results of toxicity testing of propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol in which dose levels near or above testing limits (as established in the OPPTS 870 series harmonized test guidelines) were employed in experimental animal studies and no significant toxicity observed."

"Carcinogenicity Classification: A review of the available data has shown propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol to be negative for carcinogenicity in studies conducted up to the testing limit doses established by the Agency; therefore, no further carcinogenic analysis is required."


Read More: http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/reregistration/REDs/propylene_glycol_red.pdf

Better not visit the hospital anytime soon lest you be, again, exposed to "nasty, chemical laced 'vapor."

The 2nd main ingredient is vegetable Ggycerin. On vegetable glycerin. On vegetable glycerin:

Applications

Food industryes, glycerol serves as a humectant, solvent, and sweetener, and may help preserve foods. It is also used as filler in commercially prepared low-fat foods (e.g., cookies), and as a thickening agent in liqueurs. Glycerol and water are used to preserve certain types of leaves.[6] As a sugar substitute, it has approximately 27 kilocalories per teaspoon (sugar has 20) and is 60% as sweet as sucrose. It does not feed the bacteria that form plaques and cause dental cavities. As a food additive, glycerol is labeled as E number E422. It is added to icing (frosting) to prevent it setting too hard.
As used in foods, glycerol is categorized by the American Dietetic Association as a carbohydrate. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) carbohydrate designation includes all caloric macronutrients excluding protein and fat. Glycerol has a caloric density similar to table sugar, but a lower glycemic index and different metabolic pathway within the body, so some dietary advocates accept glycerol as a sweetener compatible with low carbohydrate diets.
Pharmaceutical and personal care applications

Glycerol suppositories used as laxatives
Glycerol is used in medical and pharmaceutical and personal care preparations, mainly as a means of improving smoothness, providing lubrication and as a humectant. It is found in allergen immunotherapies, cough syrups, elixirs and expectorants, toothpaste, mouthwashes, skin care products, shaving cream, hair care products, soaps and water-based personal lubricants. In solid dosage forms like tablets, glycerol is used as a tablet holding agent. For human consumption, glycerol is classified by the U.S. FDA among the sugar alcohols as a caloric macronutrient.
Glycerol is a component of glycerin soap. Essential oils are added for fragrance. This kind of soap is used by people with sensitive, easily-irritated skin because it prevents skin dryness with its moisturizing properties. It draws moisture up through skin layers and slows or prevents excessive drying and evaporation.[citation needed] With similar benefits, glycerin is a common ingredient in many bath salts recipes. However, some assert that due to glycerin's moisture absorbing properties, it can be more of a hindrance than a benefit.
Glycerol can be used as a laxative when introduced into the rectum in suppository or small-volume (2–10 ml) (enema) form; it irritates the anal mucosa and induces a hyperosmotic effect.[8]
Taken orally (often mixed with fruit juice to reduce its sweet taste), glycerol can cause a rapid, temporary decrease in the internal pressure of the eye. This can be a useful initial emergency treatment of severely elevated eye pressure.
Botanical extracts
When utilized in 'tincture' method extractions, specifically as a 10% solution, glycerol prevents tannins from precipitating in ethanol extracts of plants (tinctures). It is also used as an 'alcohol-free' alternative to ethanol as a solvent in preparing herbal extractions. It is less extractive when utilized in a standard tincture methodology. Glycerol is approximately 30% more slowly absorbed by the body resulting in a much lower glycemic load. Alcohol-based tinctures can also have the alcohol removed and replaced with glycerol for its preserving properties. Such products are not 'alcohol-free' in either a scientific or consumable sense, but should in all instances more accurately be referred to as "Alcohol-Removed" products. Fluid extract manufacturers often extract herbs in hot water before adding glycerin to make glycerites.
When used as a primary 'true' alcohol-free (e.g. no alcohol (i.e. ethanol) ever being used) botanical extraction solvent in innovative non-tincture based 'dynamic' methodologies, glycerol has been shown to possess a high degree of extractive versatility for botanicals including removal of numerous constituents and complex compounds, with an extractive power that can rival that of alcohol and water/alcohol solutions. That glycerol possess such high extractive power assumes that glycerol, with its tri-atomic structure, is utilized with dynamic methodologies as opposed to standard passive 'tincturing' methodologies that are better suited to alcohol's di-atomic structure. Glycerol possesses the intrinsic property of not denaturing or rendering a botanical's constituents inert (as di-atomic alcohols – i.e. ethanolic (grain) alcohol, methanolic (wood) alcohol, etc., do). Glycerol is a stable preserving agent for botanical extracts that, when utilized in proper concentrations in an extraction solvent base, does not allow inverting or reduction-oxidation of a finished extract's constituents, even over several years. Both glycerol and ethanol are viable preserving agents. Glycerol is bacteriostatic in its action, and ethanol is bactericidal in its action.




Read More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerol#Applications

Oh snap! The only chemical laced vapor around doesn't have anything to do with electronic cigarettes. What were you doing at an e-cig "event" BTW?

Recommendations

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Anything is better than sucking concentrated smoke into your lungs. Warpy Nov 2013 #1
I was able to quit both... jayfish Nov 2013 #3
what is in the hookahs? wordpix Nov 2013 #33
Flavored tobacco Warpy Nov 2013 #34
"Hey, these electronic cigarettes we're advertising don't make you smell like you've been smoking... Ian David Nov 2013 #2
Kids are always going to want to pose and posture with 'adult' vices Warpy Nov 2013 #4
I like the e-cigs with no nicotine. It's Vegetable Oil and jtuck004 Nov 2013 #5
They're great for smokers trying to quit Warpy Nov 2013 #7
While we are both on the same track here, this idea, jayfish Nov 2013 #9
Strangely Treant Nov 2013 #13
I agree..I can be distracted from vaping...but never from smoking angstlessk Nov 2013 #18
MAOI inhibitors. beevul Nov 2013 #20
Really? KamaAina Nov 2013 #31
Yup. beevul Nov 2013 #35
The nicotine in cigs is freebase - highly addictive Mosby Nov 2013 #23
I'm guessing this has something to do with it, too: Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #32
If you let kids Smoke Cigarettes ...maybe many wouldn't get into Drugs. KoKo Nov 2013 #6
Good point. Jamastiene Nov 2013 #27
Nicotine by itself is harmless..in fact research shows it might prevent old age ErikJ Nov 2013 #8
Smoke and Vapor = Airborne Poison onehandle Nov 2013 #10
Chemical laced vapor huh? jayfish Nov 2013 #11
Sponsored by, not an 'e-cig event.' onehandle Nov 2013 #12
Hilarious! jayfish Nov 2013 #15
LOL Egnever Nov 2013 #37
True, however Treant Nov 2013 #14
I'll give you that. jayfish Nov 2013 #17
I tend to follow Treant Nov 2013 #19
Wow, you better stay away from fog machines at rock concerts and halloween displays... phleshdef Nov 2013 #16
In your less than objective opinion... beevul Nov 2013 #21
The air at the event I was at was filled by particulate matter. onehandle Nov 2013 #22
Most excellent hyperbole: "Mothers don't want Heroin blown in their babies' faces." Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #24
Please Show Me An Example of This "Wide Coverage". jayfish Nov 2013 #25
H20? Really? onehandle Nov 2013 #26
Dear Diety. jayfish Nov 2013 #28
And as usual, useless links to e-cigarette industry sites. onehandle Nov 2013 #29
Presenting the exception as something other than an exception. beevul Nov 2013 #30
I don't know what was filling the air there, bitchkitty Nov 2013 #36
Funny, the only comments I have ever gotten even from nonsmokers is that smells awesome TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #38
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