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67. Been there, done that. RIP Dr. George Tiller,

Reply to Kelvin Mace (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:35 AM

Nov 2013

murdered in church after FOX (especially Bill O) spent years demonizing him as "Dr. Tiller the baby killer."

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School officials threatened to be ‘lined up and shot’ after Fox News ‘misreporting’ [View all] Judi Lynn Nov 2013 OP

"lined up and shot" ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #1

How many people christx30 Nov 2013 #2

No Time In The Day To Recite The Pledge - Really...... global1 Nov 2013 #3

It sounds like a lame excuse to me. Now, I'm not for prayer in school, too many RKP5637 Nov 2013 #5

I pledged allegiance to the Constitution when I was inducted into the military in the early '70s... Journeyman Nov 2013 #11

That, is an interesting way of looking at it, I really understand your point of view, I never RKP5637 Nov 2013 #16

Excellent point. I'm actually ashamed of myself for not realizing your thoughts a long time ago. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #25

I refuse to recite the Pledge xxqqqzme Nov 2013 #34

+1 nt Sand Wind Nov 2013 #65

Yeah, "under God" has nothing to do with prayer. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #21

ha, oops, right! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #28

As long as they use the original version KamaAina Nov 2013 #33

I learned it without the "under God" part, Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #39

I was in school when they added that, and to me even at that age it was a WTF. I RKP5637 Nov 2013 #43

PS: Ted Cruise reminds me of McCarthy ... it just hit me now who he reminds me of ... n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #44

Plus the "under God" part ruins the continuity caraher Nov 2013 #64

because they fucked it up maindawg Nov 2013 #45

Yep, they sure did! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #47

when we recited the pledge today maindawg Nov 2013 #49

I went to school in the 1960s and early 1970s rsdsharp Nov 2013 #6

You didn't read the story.... sinkingfeeling Nov 2013 #7

Please tell me you're kidding maxrandb Nov 2013 #12

First you got to get the kids to stand up, face the right direction, put their right hand on alfredo Nov 2013 #14

Dear God. And I'm sure that teacher was convinced they were going to heaven. nt okaawhatever Nov 2013 #36

They always do, they're special, they're on a mission from god and often RKP5637 Nov 2013 #46

She even spoke like the King James Bible. You knew you were in trouble when she pointed at alfredo Nov 2013 #48

Apparently there is no time in the day for you to read the story jeff47 Nov 2013 #20

You get lost on the way to a teaparty rally? Bradical79 Nov 2013 #26

I guess you weren't reciting it with heart then. Ash_F Nov 2013 #27

You're quoting Fox. tblue Nov 2013 #31

Ten seconds they could spend learning and not being told to recite a loyalty oath. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #40

I got it under 1 second. mwooldri Nov 2013 #55

Defenders of "freedom" making death threats over not requiring the reciting of a loyalty oath. arcane1 Nov 2013 #4

"Freedumb" isn't what it used to be.... blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #8

Yep, that's WTF is consistently wrong with these asses. Their solution is always the same, RKP5637 Nov 2013 #10

Where does it say it was the vets making the threats?nt Guaguacoa Nov 2013 #58

Where did I say it was the vets? arcane1 Nov 2013 #60

You said "defenders of freedom" making the threats. Guaguacoa Nov 2013 #66

You would be mistaken. I put freedom in quotes for a reason. arcane1 Nov 2013 #68

Then that is not what you meant, however Guaguacoa Nov 2013 #70

Good point. I was referring to the phony patriotism of the ones saying "get shot" arcane1 Nov 2013 #71

One of these days, Fox is going to get someone killed Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #9

Probably they already indirectly (or directly) have, a lot more than we realize. IMO the same can RKP5637 Nov 2013 #13

They already have done that. Botany Nov 2013 #15

Been there, done that. RIP Dr. George Tiller, tblue37 Nov 2013 #67

Children being forced to recite a loyalty oath is nothing new. Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #17

Funny you should mention that. In the 30's the pledge didn't involve hand-over-heart. arcane1 Nov 2013 #18

Thank you! So glad to see this, myself. Never, ever knew about it. Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #19

Thank you for replying, thereby allowing me to catch my spelling error. arcane1 Nov 2013 #22

And it didn't have the words "under God" in it. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #24

Holy shit. nt riqster Nov 2013 #51

I once wrote up a history of The Pledge for a (former) friend who sent me some truly... Hekate Nov 2013 #30

I have read that the "under God" phrase Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #37

Either way, it didn't show up until sometime in mid-50s, after I had already memorized... Hekate Nov 2013 #57

Right. Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #63

The Pledge is about Madmiddle Nov 2013 #23

I really think it is a prayer... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #29

I am only for it if they bring back the Bellamy salute. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #32

No offense. I support your right to sit out the Pledge, I did too in the sixties. But I also ... marble falls Nov 2013 #41

I said I was reminded MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #50

I get your point. We both have an extreme dislike of jingoism. Thank you for talking about this ... marble falls Nov 2013 #59

+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #53

Fair and balanced and totally without factual basis. Fox, gotta resist taling them seriously. marble falls Nov 2013 #35

I have no problem with cosenting adults reciting the pledge. Mr.Bill Nov 2013 #38

I think that's the point. defacto7 Nov 2013 #42

Lined up and shot. CFLDem Nov 2013 #52

Was it H. Rap Brown who said "Violence is as American as cherry pie"? I think he had a point... n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #56

"Amer'ca: love it or we'll kill you!" nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #54

my school did the same thing and no one cared madrchsod Nov 2013 #61

On the last Veterans Day, I - the only known lefty in miles - was also the only person on my block IrishAyes Nov 2013 #62

Absolutely True about that Scum warrant46 Nov 2013 #69