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(16,926 posts) Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:49 PM Nov 2013

Obama: I'm not 'particularly ideological' [View all]

Source: USA Today

President Obama, headlining a string of fundraisers this week, told one group of Democratic donors that "I'm not a particularly ideological person."

Obama said during a fundraiser Sunday in the Seattle area that "there are some things, some values I feel passionately about," and many of them are at stake in next year's congressional elections.

They include making sure that everyone "gets a fair shake," providing a strong national defense, and "leaving a planet that is as spectacular as the one we inherited from our parents and our grandparents," Obama said.

"So there are values I care about, but I'm pretty pragmatic when it comes to how do we get there," Obama said.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/11/25/obama-ideological-democratic-fundraiser-seattle/3696687/

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Obama: I'm not 'particularly ideological' [View all] IDemo Nov 2013 OP

We've noticed Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #1

No kidding. jsr Nov 2013 #4

Ridiculous, as though has Obama has dictatorial powers. lumpy Nov 2013 #28

So, directing your Justice Department Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #43

Shouldn't the Pres. get advice from experts re. the feasibility in taking actions? Perhaps he has . lumpy Nov 2013 #37

Instant satisfaction? Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #42

He might have been able to do more Cosmocat Jan 2014 #72

He should have gone after them upon winning first election when he had the country behind him on point Jan 2014 #76

+1000 RC Jan 2014 #77

OK Cosmocat Jan 2014 #78

Don't kill me yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #52

That is certainly a counter argument Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #58

Very good points yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #61

And in the long run, going after the war criminals would have been the better choice. RC Jan 2014 #79

So Kevin, what is the legal limit before drone strikes, including against citizens of the United 24601 Feb 2014 #82

The use of drones against anyone outside a battlefield, Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #83

So if someone is planning & directing attacks against you, is their current location part of the 24601 Feb 2014 #86

What is the evidence that someone is making these plans? Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #87

Let's start with a fundamental disagreement it's always a war to attack a civilian. A civilian may 24601 Feb 2014 #88

Right off I have a disagreement: Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #91

Sad but true. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #90

Corporate media is working overtime to Iliyah Nov 2013 #2

Are you seeing the linked article as a negative one? IDemo Nov 2013 #3

thank you passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #5

Obama is not ideological in the sense that he is not working toward any particular political lumpy Nov 2013 #29

with some politicians, it's not what idea but which people yurbud Nov 2013 #39

yeah, we know Skittles Nov 2013 #6

it doesn't take an ideology to defend the Constitution or the Rule of Law. grasswire Nov 2013 #7

So if he wants everyone to "get a fair shake" dflprincess Nov 2013 #8

Talk to God, those are tall order, God has more time and power. lumpy Nov 2013 #30

That's complete nonsense. Bradical79 Jan 2014 #50

ah--Blairite, then nt MisterP Nov 2013 #9

Oh, Mr President! Would a real mountaineer switch direction if the planned ascent struggle4progress Nov 2013 #10

Indeed. ElboRuum Nov 2013 #11

Pragmatists RobinA Nov 2013 #13

Where there is no vision.... pscot Nov 2013 #17

More ideological nonsense... ElboRuum Nov 2013 #19

What a load. U4ikLefty Nov 2013 #27

Yes it did. ElboRuum Nov 2013 #40

Thank you. lumpy Nov 2013 #31

"pragmatists" are more like generals who know their troops will be killed yurbud Nov 2013 #25

Sounds more like the description of an ideologue. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #55

I have more respect for ideologues than corrupt politicians yurbud Jan 2014 #66

heheh treestar Nov 2013 #41

Remember back in the day . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #53

Thanks struggle! Whatever, I'm just Cha Jan 2014 #70

Nothing like pragmatically loosing elections to republicans! /nt Ash_F Jan 2014 #71

"everyone getting a fair shake" and "a strong national defense" are at odds ... Myrina Nov 2013 #12

No matter how insane or malignant the Republicans are, I will meet them half way (at least) Doctor_J Nov 2013 #14

Is this his way of saying he stands for nothing? Doctor_J Nov 2013 #15

??? lumpy Nov 2013 #32

Which I can appreciate... Xyzse Nov 2013 #16

Wrong forum Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #18

In other words, "I am no liberal." tblue Nov 2013 #20

great--that's like going to the grocery store and none of the cans or boxes have labels or lists of yurbud Nov 2013 #21

Sounds like Obama has an open mind, He's not in a group with set ideas such as a group on which lumpy Nov 2013 #33

Liberal and ideology are two different words with more than one meanings. lumpy Nov 2013 #35

Liberal has broader application than the word ideology. Two different words. lumpy Nov 2013 #38

Pragmatic liberals are the ones who get things done ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #56

if politicians don't really stand for any particular ideas, we don't have a real choice when we vote yurbud Nov 2013 #22

Pretty Much... RobinA Nov 2013 #23

He ran as a Democrat, which supposedly is a particular ideology yurbud Nov 2013 #24

The word idea has a broader meaning than ideology. For instance, " Huckabee had the idea that lumpy Nov 2013 #36

Drivel BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #26

People need dictionaries. nuff said lumpy Nov 2013 #34

I think he is just an intellectual mess. He uses ideology when it suits him. Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #44

He does? That's a load of bull! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #45

OK, OK. He does not use ideology. He just makes stuff up as he goes. Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #48

Oh, just like you do. Put a sock in it. You have no clue what you're talking about. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #67

I don't get it. Are you saying he's ideological or not? Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #68

"Put a sock in it. You have no clue what you're talking about." WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #84

Centrism is an ideology Enrique Jan 2014 #46

"I don't really have any particular ideals" FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #47

He's simply saying he's a moderate.. which shouldnt be a shock to anyone. DCBob Jan 2014 #49

Really. n/t Smarmie Doofus Jan 2014 #51

Obama was a product of the Daley Machine. former9thward Jan 2014 #54

Pragmatic liberals are the ones who get things done ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #57

You are not inducing in me an urge to get more involved with the Democratic party Fumesucker Jan 2014 #63

The fact that I responded to your OP JoePhilly Jan 2014 #64

My OP? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #65

I was responding by phone ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #74

Perspectives often differ Fumesucker Jan 2014 #75

Yeah, pragmatic progressivism is very powerful. joshcryer Jan 2014 #69

I believe Dracula said the same thing rock Jan 2014 #59

Yow! That's harsh. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #80

Nor will his presidency prove to be particularly memorable DerekG Jan 2014 #60

Cool. truthisfreedom Jan 2014 #62

No kidding. nt TBF Jan 2014 #73

Funny, none of this was mentioned Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #81

Except, you know, that whole thing about saying exactly that Recursion Feb 2014 #89

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything" Zorra Feb 2014 #85