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Scootaloo

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33. You're actually wrong, regarding Afghanistan...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:13 PM
Nov 2013

Mohammed Zahir Shah became king of Afghanistan in the usual way - Inherited from his father, Mohammed Nadir Shah, in 1933. Stalin had nothing to do with it. Nor did Stalin have anything to do with the coup d'etat that transformed Afghanistan from a monarchy to a socialist democracy in 1973 (Seeing as Stalin was pretty dead, by then). Zahir was actually a decent guy about it - he abdicated, rather than fight to keep the throne, and years later in 2002, made it clear that he would not seek involvement in Afghanistan politics unless the people so desired - they apparently didn't. Of course, by 2002, he was ninety-two years old, and he died two years later.

The soviets went into Afghanistan because they were asked to. Both the National Revolutionary Party that took power in 1973, and the Communist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan were aligned with the soviets, but were not part of the soviet bloc (think Mongolia.) However, interfactional fighting and the assassination of Mir Akbar Khybar led to the counter-assassination of President Daoud by the communists, who seized power. At this point, the United States became involved - rather than see Afghanistan slip further into leftism, President Carter signed onto Operation Cyclone, which provided funding and arms for counter-revolutionary guerrillas in Afghanistan.

Faced with this new insurgency, the Tariki government appealed to the Soviets for aid, which they provided. This prompted full-bore international arms and funding for the militants the US had hired, leading to the decade of war in Afghanistan, the civil war, all theway up to the Taliban.

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That is, the wahhabist shitheads are upset we won't be killing Shia for them Scootaloo Nov 2013 #1
They are upset because they have to leave their hotels in London, Paris, and Geneva. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #12
Hey, did you see this? The Stranger Nov 2013 #32
So Israel and Saudi Arabia are pissed at international agreements Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #2
"We were lied to, things were hidden from us," dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #3
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #4
The neocon dream is dead, and the neocons are pouting. So shocking. tridim Nov 2013 #5
The neocons may have been derailed. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #13
"the leading Sunni Muslim nation was determined to be pro-active" BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #6
I hope any strikeback or chemical drift will remain in Saudi Arabia/Dubai area Sunlei Nov 2013 #7
Good, leave, you fucking inbred hicks hatrack Nov 2013 #8
Stupid cosmicone Nov 2013 #9
I need to wonder if Saudi Arabia is more upset because of the fall of oil prices lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #10
you are correct madrchsod Nov 2013 #20
Ya think? ;) n/t madeline_con Nov 2013 #30
They're running out of oil and are scared shitless. CanonRay Nov 2013 #11
They have plenty of oil. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #16
That as well, but they're spending billions to pump seawater into their wells CanonRay Nov 2013 #23
They've been doing that for 40 years that I know of. n/t madeline_con Nov 2013 #31
No, the reason is the same reason the Russians went into Afghanistan in 1979 happyslug Nov 2013 #19
Thank you. This is excellent information, Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #29
You're actually wrong, regarding Afghanistan... Scootaloo Nov 2013 #33
Afghanistan was in the sphere of Influence of Russia since the 1830s happyslug Nov 2013 #34
So much anger over lack of war Bradical79 Nov 2013 #14
Seems they are angry because they did not control our foreign policy karynnj Nov 2013 #15
This deal pissed off all the right people. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #17
Not all the right people oberliner Nov 2013 #18
Fuck Saudi Arabia. jsr Nov 2013 #21
All the Saudis have to do is switch from petrodollars to petroyuan for international oil sales. Psephos Nov 2013 #22
The Chinese screw with the value of their money too much. Not to mention the stability. China is a okaawhatever Nov 2013 #24
The Saudis now fully realized their US "alliance" has made them quite vulnerable. Psephos Nov 2013 #25
I'm no economist.. but, defacto7 Nov 2013 #26
The Civil War Debt was paid off in 1874 happyslug Nov 2013 #27
Wow, good information it looks like... defacto7 Nov 2013 #28
Just another info update.. defacto7 Nov 2013 #35
One of the problem is HOW do you define the Civil War Debt AND how it is paid off happyslug Nov 2013 #36
And there we have it.... defacto7 Nov 2013 #37
I did not like what I had Written, so I rewrote it happyslug Nov 2013 #38
That's pretty amazing, happyslug. defacto7 Nov 2013 #39
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