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JDPriestly

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20. So we've been told.

Wed Nov 27, 2013, 03:54 AM

Nov 2013

But is anything the NSA claims credible?

And if they haven't done it yet, what is to keep this secret organization from doing it in the future.

The NSA surveillance has to stop. It would be great if they had limited themselves to surveillance of terrorists, but that is not what they have done.

The proof is that according to Der Spiegel, they named their surveillance of networks in Belgium, "Operation Socialism." The NSA surveillance has a specific ideological point of view. I can't say I disagree with it, but it is inappropriate for a secret wing of the US government to have a specific ideological viewpoint with regard to foreign democratic societies. Who do the NSA think they are?

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Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part Of Plan To Discredit 'Radicalizers' [View all] Joe Shlabotnik Nov 2013 OP

They're making a list and checking it twice. They're gonna find out who has to be iced. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #1

We Allowed This To Happen billhicks76 Nov 2013 #27

Nailed it. Every judge, every cop on the street, every potential juror, subject to blackmail. Scuba Nov 2013 #29

Neutralizing an agitator by [i]actually[/i] exposing any private behaviors JimDandy Nov 2013 #30

Besides being both illegal and unproductive... PSPS Nov 2013 #2

Toucher! defacto7 Nov 2013 #3

Couldn't disagree more dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #13

Yes, exactly. A point that many ignore. n/t Psephos Nov 2013 #16

Not Surprised - Wonder Where The NSA Defenders Are Now That Their Dirty Laundry May Become Public cantbeserious Nov 2013 #4

People will defend anything just because it happens to be the status quo. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #14

I think NSA attackers dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #17

That Would Be Until The Defenders Do Something Worthy Of Exposure In the Eyes Of the NSA cantbeserious Nov 2013 #22

Why is that? dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #26

That Is What I Said cantbeserious Nov 2013 #34

Ah, OK, sorry - eom dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #38

That is just slime slinging. NSA is way past losing their cred, if you ask me. loudsue Nov 2013 #5

If they know what IP you had in a given times frame they could plant it in a server log. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #8

I wondered about that. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #12

You got it, loudsue! It's not just the spying that's out of control... Peace Patriot Nov 2013 #52

It is so good to see you, Peace Patriot! Thanks for that great post! loudsue Nov 2013 #57

Excellent post - thanks! Nihil Nov 2013 #59

You Do Realize That This is Not Being Done in the US, Right? On the Road Nov 2013 #6

Where's your sarcasm flag???? delrem Nov 2013 #18

Congradulations on not reading the article... DRoseDARs Nov 2013 #19

So we've been told. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #20

Curious way to frame that Android3.14 Nov 2013 #32

I think you misunderstood dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #37

"You Do Realize That This is Not Being Done in the US, Right?" oioioi Nov 2013 #55

We have a free hand in surveilling foreign nationals and so do the Germans Therefore, if Exxon or GE rhett o rick Nov 2013 #58

I wanna see Hannity's porn collection. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #7

"I wanna see Hannity's porn collection." greiner3 Nov 2013 #36

You need to click on the ellipsis (...) AAO Nov 2013 #47

Click the button with the three dots... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #48

I wanna know how much the NSA is spending on new keyboards jsr Nov 2013 #9

This sounds like an old J Edgar Hoover plan DJ13 Nov 2013 #10

J Edgar Hoover's ghost haunts us still, having never been purged Hekate Nov 2013 #23

on point � "J.Edgar's Safe" FraDon Nov 2013 #35

CIA employed it too for the so-called "honey traps" Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #50

There only one thing more pornographic...... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #11

K & R dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #15

+1 n/t JimDandy Nov 2013 #31

+1 Poll_Blind Nov 2013 #53

As long as its not being done domestically.. iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #21

"As long as its not being done domestically.." oioioi Nov 2013 #56

Yes, but how many strokes? Lol grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #24

It all hearkens back to J. Edgar Hoover.... ReRe Nov 2013 #25

All the government needs to do CFLDem Nov 2013 #28

A comedy twist polynomial Nov 2013 #33

Funny how HP minimizes the fact that there are only 6 foreign individuals identified. randome Nov 2013 #39

There's no NSA filth you won't defend. Sad, but expected at this point. nt DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #40

So you don't believe what the article says, then? randome Nov 2013 #41

That you can say "facts matter" when it comes to the NSA is telling. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #42

randome: It has already been established that NSA collects data on everyone. SpankMe Nov 2013 #45

They do not 'collect everything'. That's absurd. randome Nov 2013 #46

"They do not 'collect everything'. That's absurd." oioioi Nov 2013 #54

There's a reason they are building that data christx30 Nov 2013 #61

No they aren't NobodyHere Nov 2013 #62

Just an excuse... HoosierCowboy Nov 2013 #43

That ain't right... Scurrilous Nov 2013 #44

This is indefensible except to propagandists and fools. woo me with science Nov 2013 #49

Snowden--the hits just keep on coming. Thank you, man of the year. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #51

I doubt if their audience cares that they are porn addicts marshall Nov 2013 #60