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In reply to the discussion: Electronic Cigarettes: New Route to Smoking Addiction for Adolescents [View all]pnwmom
(110,316 posts)76. They are directly targeting young people.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/on-parenting/2010/11/23/four-loko-may-be-gone-but-dangerous-alcohol-drinks-remain
The FDA's ban on caffeinated alcohol has been a long time brewing, but an incident in October, when nine students at Central Washington University ended up at the hospital after drinking Four Loko, might have pushed the FDA to act. The drink had 12 percent alcohol in each 23.5-ounce can; by the ounce, that's three times the amount as in a typical beer, and the alcohol equivalent of four glasses of wine. The drink comes in flavors like lemonade and watermelon. So it's no wonder that someone could down several and find himself in serious trouble.
"We're seeing a disturbing trend, in which marketers are targeting these younger drinkers," says Daniel Z. Lieberman, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at George Washington University, in Washington, D.C. "They're doing it with high sugar content. They're doing it with flavors that appeal to young drinkersfruit punch, raspberry, peachand they're doing it by making [the drinks] inexpensive."
This isn't the first time that a drink that seems designed for binge drinking has been marketed to young people. The alcohol industry has a long and ignoble history of marketing soda pop-like alcohol drinks that appeal to teens and tweens because they mask the taste of alcohol. Adding caffeine is just the latest wrinkle, inspired by the huge success of Red Bull and other caffeine-laden energy drinks.
Unfortunately, adding caffeine to alcohol doesn't cancel out the ill effects of drinking too much: A caffeinated drunk is just as stupid, and arguably more dangerous, as a drowsy drunk. Students who drank caffeine with alcohol could still react quickly, but they made just as many errors as regular drunks, according to a study from the University of Kentucky. Researchers at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, N.C., found that students who mixed caffeine and alcohol were more likely to get injured, get in a car with a drunk driver, or be involved in nonconsensual sex.
[Driving Drowsy as Bad as Driving Drunk]
The campaign against caffeinated alcohol was launched in 2007 by state attorneys general, who are in charge of enforcing state alcohol laws. "We're really concerned about all these products," Jessica Maurer, special assistant to Steve Rowe, Maine's attorney general, told me then. "We think they are potentially dangerous, particularly at a time when every state is seeing incredible binge drinking rates among our youth. Products that promise the ability to keep you up all night so you can party longer [send] absolutely the wrong message."
The FDA's ban on caffeinated alcohol has been a long time brewing, but an incident in October, when nine students at Central Washington University ended up at the hospital after drinking Four Loko, might have pushed the FDA to act. The drink had 12 percent alcohol in each 23.5-ounce can; by the ounce, that's three times the amount as in a typical beer, and the alcohol equivalent of four glasses of wine. The drink comes in flavors like lemonade and watermelon. So it's no wonder that someone could down several and find himself in serious trouble.
"We're seeing a disturbing trend, in which marketers are targeting these younger drinkers," says Daniel Z. Lieberman, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at George Washington University, in Washington, D.C. "They're doing it with high sugar content. They're doing it with flavors that appeal to young drinkersfruit punch, raspberry, peachand they're doing it by making [the drinks] inexpensive."
This isn't the first time that a drink that seems designed for binge drinking has been marketed to young people. The alcohol industry has a long and ignoble history of marketing soda pop-like alcohol drinks that appeal to teens and tweens because they mask the taste of alcohol. Adding caffeine is just the latest wrinkle, inspired by the huge success of Red Bull and other caffeine-laden energy drinks.
Unfortunately, adding caffeine to alcohol doesn't cancel out the ill effects of drinking too much: A caffeinated drunk is just as stupid, and arguably more dangerous, as a drowsy drunk. Students who drank caffeine with alcohol could still react quickly, but they made just as many errors as regular drunks, according to a study from the University of Kentucky. Researchers at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, N.C., found that students who mixed caffeine and alcohol were more likely to get injured, get in a car with a drunk driver, or be involved in nonconsensual sex.
[Driving Drowsy as Bad as Driving Drunk]
The campaign against caffeinated alcohol was launched in 2007 by state attorneys general, who are in charge of enforcing state alcohol laws. "We're really concerned about all these products," Jessica Maurer, special assistant to Steve Rowe, Maine's attorney general, told me then. "We think they are potentially dangerous, particularly at a time when every state is seeing incredible binge drinking rates among our youth. Products that promise the ability to keep you up all night so you can party longer [send] absolutely the wrong message."
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Electronic Cigarettes: New Route to Smoking Addiction for Adolescents [View all]
onehandle
Nov 2013
OP
Why did you delete this thread about ecigs and start a new one here within minutes?
OhioChick
Nov 2013
#1
I agree with you. Most of the posts on the former thread were not anti-ecig so we must try again.
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#16
No they aren't. Laws are being considered in local governments, but there is no federal restriction.
onehandle
Nov 2013
#10
Yeah, just what we need, another federal law. We don't have enough of those.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2013
#31
Yeah, because federal alcohol prohibition and federal drug prohibition worked so well.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2013
#34
Vaping isn't smoking because there is no combustion and no smoke. Why would you prefer teens smoke?
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#62
No, I tend To Trust Studies From The Culture In Which I Live. Like This One,,,
jayfish
Nov 2013
#103
No, and in fact, you're apparently the one for whom 'the research' is too difficult to understand ..
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#87
And you think big tobacco will stay away from any product that might be profitable?
pnwmom
Nov 2013
#117
Someone said that the e cigarettes are about the nicotine delivery…I thought they had no nicotine..
Tikki
Nov 2013
#8
you don't hang e-cigs off your lip LOL, you take a puff, stick it back in your pocket
snooper2
Nov 2013
#28
Well, I know you don't inhale..I've been schooled on that…so you puff like with a dandelion..
Tikki
Nov 2013
#44
Can we all safely assume that youd call a seat belt that works 20-30 percent of the time...
beevul
Nov 2013
#123
Saying "nicotine gum does not work" is an absolute statement. I provided an exception, proving
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#124
I never said it worked everytime. I said it worked for me. You continue to fail. nt
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#126
I still have some gum, and haven't used it in over a year, and I'm fine. Occasional cravings pass.nt
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#132
I don't understand vaporing e cigarettes…why not feed a nicotine habit with gum or a lozenge?
Tikki
Nov 2013
#39
That I understand..when I quit smoking 11 years ago…I put on weight right away…then I started losing
Tikki
Nov 2013
#107
Why Not Feed A Caffeine Habit With NoDoze Or 5-hour Energy Instead of Coffee. -NT-
jayfish
Nov 2013
#106
Most likely started on regular cigarettes and switched to ecigs since they are much, much cheaper.
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#12
I believe all states have regulations regarding the sale of ecigs to minors that are identical to
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#13
I did not know that. Since most ejuice contains nicotine, it should be regulated. Minors should not
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#38
What if I want to vape my medical marijuana? Or my legal marijuana in Colorado?
Xithras
Nov 2013
#46
What a bunch of bullcrap hype ... the article, and some of the responses here too, sadly ...
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#50
Lil quibble, my supplier says the nicotine is extracted from eggplant and tomato leaves
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#56
I've read an article that strongly suggests (i.e. unequivocally) that such suppliers ... are lying.
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#83
The article is running on a faulty assumption since the fruit isn't what is used but the leaves and
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#134
CDC Withholding/Twisting Facts: Vaping is increasing, but Smoking is DECREASING in Youth ...
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#102
Society is under NO moral imperative to protect members from benign substances ...
Trajan
Nov 2013
#105
Another Ignorant Comment From Someone Who Has No Idea of What They Are Talking About -NT-
jayfish
Nov 2013
#128
Your logic/thinking here is flawed, in nearly every conceivable way ... IMHO ...
brett_jv
Dec 2013
#139