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In reply to the discussion: Electronic Cigarettes: New Route to Smoking Addiction for Adolescents [View all]jayfish
(10,318 posts)121. By Golly, I Found Some. And The Results Don't Look Good For The ANTZ
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21617206
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8614291
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20031012195753data_trunc_sys.shtml
http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/tobacco/en/l-2/4.htm
Even with that that data available on the positive or negative of pure nicotine is thin.
The combination of alterated gene expressions and strongly inhibited DNA synthesis was only detected in cells exposed to smoke extract. In the presence and absence of ethanol, pure nicotine and Snus extract induced abnormalities in the cytoplasm without any significant degree of cell death. With similar doses of nicotine and ethanol, the additional components in smoke extract had a dominant effect. The smoke extract induced vast cellular abnormalities and massive cell death.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8614291
The rats breathed in a chamber with nicotine at a concentration giving twice the plasma concentration found in heavy smokers. Nicotine was given for 20 h a day, five days a week during a two-year period. We could not find any increase in mortality, in atherosclerosis or frequency of tumors in these rats compared with controls.[/b Particularly, there was no microscopic or macroscopic lung tumors nor any increase in pulmonary neuroendocrine cells. Throughout the study, however, the body weight of the nicotine exposed rats was reduced as compared with controls. In conclusion, our study does not indicate any harmful effect of nicotine when given in its pure form by inhalation.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20031012195753data_trunc_sys.shtml
"These findings don't mean people should smoke," warns neuroscientist Michael Kuhar of Emory University. "Any benefits from the nicotine in cigarettes or other tobacco products are far outweighed by the proven harm of using those products. But pure nicotine-like compounds as medications do show promise for treating human disorders."
http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/tobacco/en/l-2/4.htm
Nicotine has a range of actions in the body and the mechanisms of addiction are still poorly understood. Individual responses to nicotine vary widely. Addiction to nicotine is difficult to measure directly, and experimental studies usually involve set-ups in which animals can self-administer the drug. Such animal studies indicate that pure nicotine is only weakly addictive. There is little human data on pure nicotine use. However, dependence is strongly linked to the number of cigarettes smoked per day.
Moreover, data on human drug use indicate that the addictive potential of tobacco is very high. More than 30 per cent of those who have ever used tobacco become dependent, a higher figure than for other drugs of dependence such as heroin, cocaine or alcohol.
Moreover, data on human drug use indicate that the addictive potential of tobacco is very high. More than 30 per cent of those who have ever used tobacco become dependent, a higher figure than for other drugs of dependence such as heroin, cocaine or alcohol.
Even with that that data available on the positive or negative of pure nicotine is thin.
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Electronic Cigarettes: New Route to Smoking Addiction for Adolescents [View all]
onehandle
Nov 2013
OP
Why did you delete this thread about ecigs and start a new one here within minutes?
OhioChick
Nov 2013
#1
I agree with you. Most of the posts on the former thread were not anti-ecig so we must try again.
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#16
No they aren't. Laws are being considered in local governments, but there is no federal restriction.
onehandle
Nov 2013
#10
Yeah, just what we need, another federal law. We don't have enough of those.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2013
#31
Yeah, because federal alcohol prohibition and federal drug prohibition worked so well.
Comrade Grumpy
Nov 2013
#34
Vaping isn't smoking because there is no combustion and no smoke. Why would you prefer teens smoke?
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#62
No, I tend To Trust Studies From The Culture In Which I Live. Like This One,,,
jayfish
Nov 2013
#103
No, and in fact, you're apparently the one for whom 'the research' is too difficult to understand ..
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#87
And you think big tobacco will stay away from any product that might be profitable?
pnwmom
Nov 2013
#117
Someone said that the e cigarettes are about the nicotine delivery…I thought they had no nicotine..
Tikki
Nov 2013
#8
you don't hang e-cigs off your lip LOL, you take a puff, stick it back in your pocket
snooper2
Nov 2013
#28
Well, I know you don't inhale..I've been schooled on that…so you puff like with a dandelion..
Tikki
Nov 2013
#44
Can we all safely assume that youd call a seat belt that works 20-30 percent of the time...
beevul
Nov 2013
#123
Saying "nicotine gum does not work" is an absolute statement. I provided an exception, proving
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#124
I never said it worked everytime. I said it worked for me. You continue to fail. nt
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#126
I still have some gum, and haven't used it in over a year, and I'm fine. Occasional cravings pass.nt
Electric Monk
Nov 2013
#132
I don't understand vaporing e cigarettes…why not feed a nicotine habit with gum or a lozenge?
Tikki
Nov 2013
#39
That I understand..when I quit smoking 11 years ago…I put on weight right away…then I started losing
Tikki
Nov 2013
#107
Why Not Feed A Caffeine Habit With NoDoze Or 5-hour Energy Instead of Coffee. -NT-
jayfish
Nov 2013
#106
Most likely started on regular cigarettes and switched to ecigs since they are much, much cheaper.
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#12
I believe all states have regulations regarding the sale of ecigs to minors that are identical to
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#13
I did not know that. Since most ejuice contains nicotine, it should be regulated. Minors should not
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#38
What if I want to vape my medical marijuana? Or my legal marijuana in Colorado?
Xithras
Nov 2013
#46
What a bunch of bullcrap hype ... the article, and some of the responses here too, sadly ...
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#50
Lil quibble, my supplier says the nicotine is extracted from eggplant and tomato leaves
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#56
I've read an article that strongly suggests (i.e. unequivocally) that such suppliers ... are lying.
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#83
The article is running on a faulty assumption since the fruit isn't what is used but the leaves and
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#134
CDC Withholding/Twisting Facts: Vaping is increasing, but Smoking is DECREASING in Youth ...
brett_jv
Nov 2013
#102
Society is under NO moral imperative to protect members from benign substances ...
Trajan
Nov 2013
#105
Another Ignorant Comment From Someone Who Has No Idea of What They Are Talking About -NT-
jayfish
Nov 2013
#128
Your logic/thinking here is flawed, in nearly every conceivable way ... IMHO ...
brett_jv
Dec 2013
#139