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In reply to the discussion: Tea party activist: ‘Jesus Christ is weeping in heaven’ over pope’s criticism of capitalism' [View all]TomCADem
(17,837 posts)112. The Bible Is Far More Leftist Than Right Wing
First, there are several Biblical quotes that directly endorse collective ownership, which are often ignored by the evangelical Christians:
Acts 2: 44, 45
Acts 4:32-37
Romans 13:1-7
Second, in direct contradiction to those who preach the prosperity gospel, i.e., that being rich reflects the Lord's favor and being poor reflects God's disfavor, the Bible contains numerous provisions expressing hostility to the rich:
"Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves."
- Matthew 21:12
"On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,"
- Mark 11:15
"In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
- John 2:14-16
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Mark 10:25
Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Luke 18:25
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24
Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Luke 18:25
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows
- I Timothy 6:10
And all that believed were together, and had all things in common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Acts 2: 44, 45
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
And laid them down at the apostles feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles feet.
Acts 4:32-37
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.
For the one in authority is Gods servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are Gods servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are Gods servants, who give their full time to governing.
Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Romans 13:1-7
Second, in direct contradiction to those who preach the prosperity gospel, i.e., that being rich reflects the Lord's favor and being poor reflects God's disfavor, the Bible contains numerous provisions expressing hostility to the rich:
"Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves."
- Matthew 21:12
"On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,"
- Mark 11:15
"In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money.
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
- John 2:14-16
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Mark 10:25
Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Luke 18:25
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24
Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
- Luke 18:25
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows
- I Timothy 6:10
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Tea party activist: ‘Jesus Christ is weeping in heaven’ over pope’s criticism of capitalism' [View all]
Galraedia
Dec 2013
OP
I don't think you understand the concept of "infallibility" pertaining to the pope. It
Cal33
Dec 2013
#81
The pope is only infallible when speaking Ex cathedra. Those pronucements are very rare
Katashi_itto
Dec 2013
#136
Actually, there is (or was) a gate from Jerusalem called the Eye of the Needle....
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#129
He was actually attempting to avoid getting torn to shreds by an anti-Roman mob or
eridani
Dec 2013
#124
And Jesus told the rich young man to sell all that he had, give it to the poor, and come follow him.
Ikonoklast
Dec 2013
#106
He's not weeping. He's too busy deciding which football teams get to play in bowl games this year.
progressoid
Dec 2013
#19
Remember that op-ed that argued Goldman Sachs is holier than Mother Theresa?
Dopers_Greed
Dec 2013
#22
YES! Just look at how Jesus loved on those capitalists in the Temple courts! Oh wait. Never mind!
yellowcanine
Dec 2013
#28
It was the ONLY time he ever went OFF on anyone like this. There was a point to this.
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#157
NOT fellow human beings as it were - Money Launderers who constantly overcharged during the exchange
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#132
There ARE many churches that operate on a business model and for various reasons.
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#159
for the Red Scare, everything they said about the Commies was what they'd been saying about the Jews
MisterP
Dec 2013
#50
That was a later interpolation in an era where Mithraism was a serious competitor to Christianity
eridani
Dec 2013
#127
Better to go with a Protestant preacher of "personal prosperity". Bible be damned. n/t
pampango
Dec 2013
#40
Jesus Christ never lived in a nation like ours and did not advocate overthrow of the ones He did
jwirr
Dec 2013
#45
So what chapter and which verse? These two Bible aspects are strangely absent. That's what 12 years
mulsh
Dec 2013
#75
"Jesus never said the government should help the poor," is a favorite rightie talking point
Lydia Leftcoast
Dec 2013
#91
Eat shit, 'bagger. In case you didn't notice, no one gives a damn what you think.
DisgustipatedinCA
Dec 2013
#107
I can thump that Bible right at them. I say they're going to hell. If they act up, I repeat myself!
freshwest
Dec 2013
#115
You are taking it out of context. A) He's being accused of trying to disrupt Roman Rule.
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#173
He knows who he is, but not any type of Earthly king and if you don't get that....
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#183
B) To get to Heaven, you need to break from ALL the BS. You took Matthew 25 out of context also.
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#174
So, if a person lives an exemplary life but renounces Jesus entirely, what then?
stopbush
Dec 2013
#179
Well, if you renounce Jesus entirely, why would you want to be in Heaven anyway?
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#184
You should read your Bible, because right now, you're just offering opinions.
stopbush
Dec 2013
#186
C) About the Canaanite woman... had to look it up - not a Biblical scholar
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#175
Yes, Dufus, those are tears, but in all fairness, I think Jesus is laughin' at y'all.
Tigress DEM
Dec 2013
#125
The religion of women and slaves was not going to please a Tea Party asshole. n/t
Orsino
Dec 2013
#142
Jesus would say, "Go hang out with the money-changers. I'll get my whip and be right there."
FiveGoodMen
Dec 2013
#144
I never saw anything in the New Testament that seemed to me a vision of an economic system
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#162
And a Tea Party govt would ensure there are plenty of poor for us to take care of. n/t
Beartracks
Dec 2013
#163
Moseley quit reading that text as soon as it became a bit challenging
struggle4progress
Dec 2013
#188