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onehandle

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Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:53 AM Dec 2013

NYC Council considers electronic cigarette ban [View all]

Last edited Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:35 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: AP

Public health officials have asked the City Council to enact legislation that would add e-cigs to the 12-year-old law that drove smokers out of the city's taverns, nightclubs and office buildings, and forced them to satisfy their nicotine habits on the frigid (or broiling) sidewalks.

"Waiting to act could jeopardize the progress we've made in the last 12 years," said the city's health commissioner, Dr. Thomas Farley. He also said that electronic cigarettes make enforcement of the rules against tobacco smoking more difficult, since the two products look so much alike.

Farley added that too little was known about electronic cigarettes to say whether they are safe to use, or whether they actually help people quit smoking for good.

Health advocates have raised concerns that the inhalers, which have soared in popularity, can get people hooked on nicotine just like cigarettes, and might be taken up by people who have never smoked before, rather than only people trying to quit.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-council-considers-electronic-cigarette-ban-214929167--finance.html



Carlsbad OKs e-cigarette ban. City says devices are toxic, lure youngsters to smoke.

CARLSBAD — The Carlsbad City Council voted unanimously Tuesday to ban electronic cigarettes in all places where ordinary smoking is prohibited, becoming the second local city to legislate against the increasingly popular devices.

Proponents of so-called “e-cigarettes” say they’re a cleaner and healthier alternative to tobacco cigarettes because users get nicotine without fire, ash, smoke or carbon monoxide. They also tout them as an effective tool to help smokers quit.

But Carlsbad city officials based their ban partly on a recent federal analysis that found vapors from e-cigarettes contain carcinogens, including nitrosamines and toxic chemicals such as diethylene glycol. The battery-powered devices look like cigarettes and heat up liquid nicotine solutions creating a vapor that users can inhale.

City officials said e-cigarettes can serve as a gateway to smoking conventional cigarettes for children, who are attracted to them because they come in a variety of colors and flavors such as cotton candy and root beer. “It’s a gateway device,” City Councilman Mark Packard said. “They’re clearly marketed to youth and children.”

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/dec/03/carlsbad-e-cigarettes-ban-nicotine-youth
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So this is an ordinance aimed solely at "social acceptability"? frazzled Dec 2013 #1
banning smoking was always about social acceptability TorchTheWitch Dec 2013 #5
Apparently the NYC Council doesn't know the difference between smoke and vapor. tridim Dec 2013 #2
so it's all about social appearances ... Trajan Dec 2013 #3
As someone who quit a 33 year cigarette addiction with the ecig... logosoco Dec 2013 #4
they're doing it for big bucks from big tobacco TorchTheWitch Dec 2013 #6
Yeah, they are my #2 suspects! logosoco Dec 2013 #8
Here's The Thing... jayfish Dec 2013 #21
You need another vendor, see Aquavapor.com bitchkitty Dec 2013 #28
Yeah, you can buy... jayfish Dec 2013 #30
You sir, are exactly right. beevul Dec 2013 #34
Depends on the user Revanchist Dec 2013 #38
25 years here Treant Dec 2013 #11
25 Here As Well. jayfish Dec 2013 #22
Me too tavernier Dec 2013 #19
MAOI N/T beevul Dec 2013 #35
Interesting N/T tavernier Dec 2013 #37
This is a real overreach of the nanny state. They want to tell me that I can't put a metal stick Flatulo Dec 2013 #7
The Crusade Continues... jayfish Dec 2013 #9
Sorry, I'm too busy spraying compressed air around a crowded Starbucks. onehandle Dec 2013 #12
I'm more offended Treant Dec 2013 #13
Here's The Difference. jayfish Dec 2013 #23
translation: i got jack shit frylock Dec 2013 #24
Democrats should oppose this musiclawyer Dec 2013 #10
Not water vapor Treant Dec 2013 #14
Exhaled vapor contains ZERO nicotine... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #15
Regulations = Tyranny onehandle Dec 2013 #17
The jackass trying to ban stuff because he doesn't like it... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #18
No. Arbitrary and capricious regulations = Tyranny. beevul Dec 2013 #36
Quite possibly it's also about the lost taxes from ppl buying fewer packs of cigarettes. Demit Dec 2013 #16
Exactly! Michigan-Arizona Dec 2013 #26
“They’re clearly marketed to youth and children.” frylock Dec 2013 #20
You just can't win.. sendero Dec 2013 #25
Nitrosamines? Frank Cannon Dec 2013 #27
You're on a mission. bitchkitty Dec 2013 #29
There is a difference between smoke and vapor! LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #31
"New York City - Don't make the same mistake that New Jersey did" jayfish Dec 2013 #32
If this keeps up I'm going to get a kit from SinCityMods Revanchist Dec 2013 #33
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