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gussmith

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4. Theft?

Reply to silvershadow (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:00 PM

Dec 2013

Maybe responsibility is more descriptive.

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Illinois governor signs pension overhaul into law [View all] Judi Lynn Dec 2013 OP

Uh huh. More theft I see? I am surprised it has 337 views but no comments. I am not silvershadow Dec 2013 #1

Well, after all, what is there to say? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #2

oh yes...he`s already to go after the cities unions but.... madrchsod Dec 2013 #11

So I've heard. (nt) Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #12

Theft? gussmith Dec 2013 #4

No theft is more accurate. They are earned benefits, after all. But thanks for silvershadow Dec 2013 #5

More like readjusting promises with reality. CFLDem Dec 2013 #8

The aren't promises, they are contracts. They are earned benefits, already due, already payable. nt silvershadow Dec 2013 #16

Thank you! A Little Weird Dec 2013 #17

Oh, thank you! (And, I'm just having a little fun with a t****. (Well, suspected anyway). silvershadow Dec 2013 #19

A bum could promise a million dollars CFLDem Dec 2013 #24

Wrong. The State of Illinois (as all other 49 states) is the victim of failed trade policies. silvershadow Dec 2013 #25

Hate Radio talking points come to DU Doctor_J Dec 2013 #30

These are NOT patronage positions, these are Civil Service Positions happyslug Dec 2013 #18

It's Illinois. CFLDem Dec 2013 #23

I have heard that of every state in the Union, and at any level, it is FALSE and always has been happyslug Dec 2013 #34

LOL Skittles Dec 2013 #6

Are You F---ing Kidding Me? chuckstevens Dec 2013 #7

most illinois state workers do pay into ss.... beachbum bob Dec 2013 #26

Third Way is GOP-lite. But it does fool enough Democratic voters. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #3

Third Way was originally carla Dec 2013 #31

A great example of how NOT LIBERAL the 'Media' is in this country ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #9

you sound like some of the afscme workers i know.... madrchsod Dec 2013 #14

it will still have to go in front of the illinois supreme court madrchsod Dec 2013 #10

How is it a constitional question exactly? cstanleytech Dec 2013 #15

It is the right to property AND the Ban on States impairing contracts. happyslug Dec 2013 #20

my super republican senator who voted against used this as an argument in his newspaper editorial. madrchsod Dec 2013 #21

People forget about that ban on impairing contracts. happyslug Dec 2013 #22

state pensions covered under state constitution BUT beachbum bob Dec 2013 #27

If the pension is PRIVATE, you are correct, but these are from the State GOVERNMENT. happyslug Dec 2013 #32

illinois constitution has pension protections for state employees beachbum bob Dec 2013 #28

But the real issue is the FEDERAL CONSTITUTION happyslug Dec 2013 #33

my super republican state senator explained to me how it works in springfield madrchsod Dec 2013 #13

This is very true and has been going on for decades. apnu Dec 2013 #29