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In reply to the discussion: Tea party activist: ‘Jesus Christ is weeping in heaven’ over pope’s criticism of capitalism' [View all]Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)People who really want to be in Heaven are going there not to "get" something, but to "be with God" and "be at peace" It may not be everyone's cup of tea. Probably boring to many people.
BUT the alternative simply is what it is. People who don't focus and join with this energy and aren't willing to let go of all the crap of this world just don't belong. It's order or chaos and to be part of the order, one has to let go of the chaos. You can't have both.
People who "THINK" they are going to Heaven because they "did all the right things" but spent their life hating gays and persecuting them, voting against feeding the poor because rich people need more money for gold toilet seats will be in for a shock. That is what Matthew 25 is about. People who do kind things for others without judgment and work to better the lives of others may not be focused each moment on doing that good for Jesus, but Jesus said that HE would see it that way.
ON Earth he is a servant of God, a messenger and a martyr but he is also truly God's son, so a Prince of Peace and when EVERYTHING is over, a King in the Kingdom of Heaven but he also promised his disciples would be Kings at that time as well.
Yeah, he's going to call people on their hypocrisy. People in the reich wing think all their hate is in the name of God, but Jesus said in Matthew 25 - NO IT ISN'T. People who live their life the best they can and still feel a bit lowly and unworthy will still be brought into Heaven because God can work with a willing soul, but not an arrogant one.
Just think of how difficult it is to try and talk to a teabagger and convince them about the simplest of realities. Obama - born in the USA. End of story. You are sane, rational. You have the facts at your disposal, but their own delusional convictions are more important than any fact. Everything Obama does that is good they see as evil. IF you can't work with a teabagger, think of how much harder it is to work with a whole world of people that think every new guru has the answer, when the truth is simpler and more complicated than that.
SIMPLE: Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you and love God most of all."
It isn't for everyone, I guess, but I think it's a great way to live my life so I don't have regrets. Jesus was willing to lay his life down so that others could believe in forgiveness. The whole idea of man heading to Hell was already written and people thought they had to be perfect to get out of it. Instead, Jesus said, "I'll pay the price, just accept that and live everyday going forward without sin." He set up the disciples to help people forgive themselves when they made mistakes and move on with their lives. Keep being better to each other.
COMPLICATED: Each person makes choices every day about how they will live, how they will treat others and "SAYING" that I believe in Jesus and treating other people like shit, still leads me to Hell.
I believe it would most likely be a Hell of my own making because there is a mentality of "if it isn't just so, it's awful" that spoiled rotten kids and selfish adults share that cause everything that doesn't go their way to be such an affliction upon them.
REALLY believing in the message of Christ and the messenger means I treat others with respect at every possible moment and repent when I don't. For a long time I felt like a bad person because I wouldn't piss on *ush to put him out if he was on fire and some days I'm right back in that space and have to work my way out of it. BUT I do it for my own sanity, not necessarily for *ush. I do it because I believe in Jesus as a peaceful, but no nonsense kind of guy.
God and Jesus aren't in Hell torturing anyone. It isn't their wish for anyone or their purpose. It's simply the alternative. (There may be others, who knows and Heaven may be a figment of my imagination, but I'm still happy living my life the way I do, believing as I do, because I think it makes ME the best person I CAN be.)