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KatyMan

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133. i do not think any doctor visit

Fri Dec 6, 2013, 11:04 PM

Dec 2013

Would be 30.00 even if insurance was never involved. Now my wife is an RN with 30 years experience who has been a case manager for Medicaid for 10 years so we do have strong views on healthcare at our house. For my daughter, who has a serious chronic disorder, the ACA has really been a relief

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More than 1/4 of uninsured rather pay Obamacare fine than get insurance, Gallup finds [View all] Redfairen Dec 2013 OP

Wonder how many of them bpositive Dec 2013 #1

Emergency rooms are not free. Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #12

And if you have no property to lien? What then? Prison? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #30

jail for sure...maybe not if you have a nice judge madrchsod Dec 2013 #37

Like I said, Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #38

"Judgment proof" is a thing. And there's always bankruptcy. nt. Hosnon Dec 2013 #47

Even filing for BK isn't free. Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #49

Didn't say it was. But it's MUCH cheaper than an emergency room visit. Hosnon Dec 2013 #53

You make valid points, Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #58

Yeah, you're right. Hopefully they will see it's a no-brainer. Hosnon Dec 2013 #59

They can sue you, Sgent Dec 2013 #43

I know a man who was put in jail over it wercal Dec 2013 #31

He wasn't jailed for being a debtor. He was likely jailed for contempt of court. nt. Hosnon Dec 2013 #48

No, arrest for debt is a Common Law grounds for an arrest happyslug Dec 2013 #78

Imprisonment for state fines has been unconstitutional since the '80s. And it has been banned by Hosnon Dec 2013 #114

True and one fall can eat up a LOT of money Maeve Dec 2013 #34

Guess thats what they want... SummerSnow Dec 2013 #56

Everytime someone dies after Jan. 1st, they are going to say "Obama has blood on his hands." Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #61

So true. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #63

You are thoroughly misinformed elias7 Dec 2013 #100

My wife is a retired RN and spent five years as a case manager. Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #107

Bankruptcy is mainly due to medical debts, I'll agree elias7 Dec 2013 #109

They mainly sell the debt to collection agencies. Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #110

You are kidding right? The ER treats problems and then refers them to a private doc/hosp ... slipslidingaway Dec 2013 #134

In other news, nearly 3/4 of uninsured will choose to get insurance. arcane1 Dec 2013 #2

Thank you. 2014 is about the 75% non-morons BlueStreak Dec 2013 #127

So 25% of the uninsured boobooday Dec 2013 #3

And after a year, that number will be below 15%, I'll bet. They'll get on the bangwagon. nt valerief Dec 2013 #51

Healthy for how long? SummerSnow Dec 2013 #57

45% of Republicans would rather die than JoePhilly Dec 2013 #4

15% of democrats would rather die as well.... LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #10

They are stupid? JoePhilly Dec 2013 #18

I have a feeling you're right LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #39

Idealogical Stand thefool_wa Dec 2013 #19

Good point LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #40

my neighbor Locrian Dec 2013 #106

Their spouse is republican n/t tom_kelly Dec 2013 #41

The one thing making them talk about politics. LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #42

Libertarians? hedgehog Dec 2013 #116

that could be. I could see that. LionsTigersRedWings Dec 2013 #117

Ha! Me, too! nt valerief Dec 2013 #52

Reid exempt his staff 840high Dec 2013 #76

yet the President enrolled.. chillfactor Dec 2013 #81

The 25%. silverweb Dec 2013 #5

These are the alternate universe core baggers. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #27

Exactly. silverweb Dec 2013 #35

Really? Igel Dec 2013 #45

Or they agreed with Keith Olbermann solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #92

Their guardian angels will protect them. valerief Dec 2013 #54

The GOP is actively working to kill off its own base. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #32

Pure insanity. silverweb Dec 2013 #36

I call them "The Brain-dead 20%" Justitia Dec 2013 #99

About 25% of the people believe climate change is a hoax & Lex Dec 2013 #6

"The rate is higher when asked among uninsured Republicans." Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #7

Stupid White Wing. I wish their were some way to deny care to those who could afford Hoyt Dec 2013 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Stargazer99 Dec 2013 #9

the way to fix that Stargazer99 Dec 2013 #11

This says it all nobodyspecial Dec 2013 #13

I agree. Talk is cheap but justhanginon Dec 2013 #29

why? jamzrockz Dec 2013 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueJazz Dec 2013 #14

Great. Usually it's 35%. n/t Dawgs Dec 2013 #15

Most people don't know what is what still. Try this poll again next April. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #16

Didn't we already know leftynyc Dec 2013 #17

Yes: Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #20

I LOVE that movie leftynyc Dec 2013 #21

I wonder how may of that 1/4 bothered to check prices. . . n/t Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #22

Thirty million OneCrazyDiamond Dec 2013 #23

Nearly 3/4 of uninsured would rather get insurance than pay Obamacare fine, Gallup finds cyberswede Dec 2013 #24

Well, there's your rank-and-file tea party Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #25

Very interesting results. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #26

Don't worry. That will change. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #28

True. The fine will increase over time. ... spin Dec 2013 #33

Tell them that as an alternative, they can sign up for the ACA.... Thor_MN Dec 2013 #44

The 28% of crazy teahadists who BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #46

Some Fall into a gap Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #50

So 15% of Dems and 45% of Republicans ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #62

Didn't Say All, I said Some Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #65

So did the ACA make you situation better, worse, JoePhilly Dec 2013 #69

No Change. Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #119

It's my opinion Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2013 #55

The GOP apparently doesn't know Turbineguy Dec 2013 #60

More support for the idea... JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #64

Unaffordabel premiums oldbitty Dec 2013 #66

Compared to individual private plans before the ACA penultimate Dec 2013 #67

Unaffordable oldbitty Dec 2013 #75

What difference does it make about the lack of platinum plans? Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2013 #83

Chronic health issues oldbitty Dec 2013 #88

No plantinum plans??? llmart Dec 2013 #98

I am bashing the ACA oldbitty Dec 2013 #101

Single Payer NOW! burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #125

Agreed oldbitty Dec 2013 #130

What happens if she gets sick and needs medical care? llmart Dec 2013 #68

No cable, no internet, yes cell phone oldbitty Dec 2013 #86

If she gets sick she can sign up at that time. hugo_from_TN Dec 2013 #87

Wow... llmart Dec 2013 #97

not so for everyone KatyMan Dec 2013 #71

My conservative father said I should just pay the fine myself penultimate Dec 2013 #70

rumor: free Dilaudid on Jan1 at the ER if you enroll in ACA quadrature Dec 2013 #72

That's cool by me. The increased taxes will increase revenues. Pterodactyl Dec 2013 #73

I know this goes against the Party Faithful Le Taz Hot Dec 2013 #74

No fire from me. 840high Dec 2013 #77

For upper middle class older folks, Obamacare will result in bankruptcy oldbitty Dec 2013 #79

Obamacare.....interesting word choice LovingA2andMI Dec 2013 #96

Suspicion oldbitty Dec 2013 #103

It might be unwarranted but you have aroused my suspicion. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #104

Disbelief oldbitty Dec 2013 #111

I thought Obamacare was an acceptable way of referring to ACA philosslayer Dec 2013 #108

You and me both oldbitty Dec 2013 #112

The LAW IS.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2013 #122

When posting my comments oldbitty Dec 2013 #131

$95 per person or 1 percent of income whichever is greater Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #80

The bottom tier plans are terrible Warpy Dec 2013 #82

I'm just about done with wasting my time on this issue Fumesucker Dec 2013 #84

Every plan below platinum is terrible oldbitty Dec 2013 #90

Right. We knew it was going to take a lot of work to fix it Warpy Dec 2013 #91

Medicaid oldbitty Dec 2013 #94

They're going to have to come up with a quota system for docs Warpy Dec 2013 #95

It might exist oldbitty Dec 2013 #132

i am the one with a daughter KatyMan Dec 2013 #123

Thank you for responding oldbitty Dec 2013 #129

i do not think any doctor visit KatyMan Dec 2013 #133

It all depends on the doctor oldbitty Dec 2013 #135

Polls like these tend to be B.S. taught_me_patience Dec 2013 #85

so what happens if they get really sick? Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #89

The same thing that happens now Tien1985 Dec 2013 #93

single payer system is the answer Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #120

that's the problem with the pre-existing condition stuff alc Dec 2013 #102

Thank you oldbitty Dec 2013 #113

NONE OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW hollowdweller Dec 2013 #105

Do this same poll in a year, and then in two years. HuckleB Dec 2013 #115

My mother is in this camp. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2013 #118

I hear that if you don't sign up, Mr.Bill Dec 2013 #124

lawl Puzzledtraveller Dec 2013 #126

Stiffen the fine liberal N proud Dec 2013 #128

or even better increase the subsidy jamzrockz Dec 2013 #136