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25. Isn't it obvious?

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 08:10 AM

Dec 2013

Anyone that has strong convictions, sees massive violations of those convictions, and ACTS on those convictions to do the right thing is psychologically unsound. To be clear, that is such a rare act from within the halls of power these days that anyone that does such a thing WILL be seen as a hero by quite a few, and that fact should be obvious. Ergo, no one should ever do this. That would be a clear sign of psychological damage, and anything they unveil will not be credible.

How very fucking convenient.

We should all return now to not trying to do good ever because that would be a clear sign of being mentally ill. At least it would in a society that is expertly skilled in the arts of psychological manipulation and control.

Seriously though: We should all strive to be heroes in a world and society that is as sick as ours, and we should all know that we CAN be heroes. In fact, many of us around here are heroes to my mind.

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I don't understand what you're asking. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #21

I stand corrected, then... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #34

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