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35. ..."And it's not big news to say 'the NSA spies on Russians'..."

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:40 AM

Dec 2013

That's the mindset I still can't ever quite grasp...

If it isn't big news to say 'the NSA spies on Russians', then that must mean people for the most part are OK with it...And if people are OK with that, then they don't have the right to be all shocked and outraged when the spying net expands to the point where everyone falls under it...

If people are truly pissed off about NSA spying, they should be because it is an unconscionable intrusion into peoples' individual liberties and the sovereign right of nations to govern their own people and determine their own destiny without outside interference...Whether or not this or that country is a "close ally" shouldn't even factor in the discussion, because if they can justify spying on "enemies", it is a very short leap to justify spying on everyone else...Just imho...

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