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93. I agree with you

Thu Dec 12, 2013, 01:48 PM

Dec 2013

That Bush was AWOL during the time he was assigned to Alabama and probably later during his enlistment. It also seems very likely that Bush received favorable treatment because of his father. Its well known that Bush misbehaved during that time in his life so its very possible he got away with more.

Dan Rather did admit that the documents didn't meet CBS journalistic standards and should not have been used. The Thornburg Commission did not look at the question of the authenticity of the documents. My guess is that was because Bill Burkett was threatening to sue CBS.

There is overwhelming evidence that the documents were fakes. For those who still believe the documents are real, I'd like them to come up with a credible explanation of how Burkett got them if they were.

Some of the evidence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

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Dan Rather: "My Story Was True" [View all] Hissyspit Dec 2013 OP

Oh, I'm very capable of blaming the people behind the story and Cha Dec 2013 #1

I know! I too can multitask! dchill Dec 2013 #13

And if you take the larger view of her career, you have to remember that speech she gave calimary Dec 2013 #46

Most of us know that, and in spite of multiple witnesses that confirm it, the MSM has essentially lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #2

I was told that Michael Moore was offered the same docs as Rather Ace Acme Dec 2013 #3

I have always maintained lapfog_1 Dec 2013 #5

They came from Rove...I'm convinced of that. pamela Dec 2013 #7

Donald Segretti lapfog_1 Dec 2013 #10

Yes, it was always just a little convenient how the wingnut blogs knew just how to pick them apart Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2013 #65

Yes I remember that too Mr. Mojo Risen Dec 2013 #84

At best the documents were a red herring Major Nikon Dec 2013 #17

I most totally agree withyou! It was a right wing plot to discredit the story! CTyankee Dec 2013 #31

you are 100% correct beachbum bob Dec 2013 #52

The documents looked completely authentic starroute Dec 2013 #8

The IBM Executive typewriter Downwinder Dec 2013 #11

The Texas Air Guard did not have those typewriters. former9thward Dec 2013 #40

Correct me if I am wrong. olegramps Dec 2013 #45

Yes, that is what she stated. former9thward Dec 2013 #60

Rove, .... Read Fortunate Son mikeysnot Dec 2013 #63

The Original St Martins Press version includes the 2 kilos of coke story FogerRox Dec 2013 #64

I have the soft skull press version. mikeysnot Dec 2013 #66

More info... mikeysnot Dec 2013 #67

St Martins has a top flight record of double checking an authors sources FogerRox Dec 2013 #90

but something changed their position... mikeysnot Dec 2013 #91

I can't argue against that. FogerRox Dec 2013 #92

I agree Brainstormy Dec 2013 #77

We saw much of that material here before 60 Minutes picked it up wryter2000 Dec 2013 #41

+1 warrant46 Dec 2013 #4

Good for Dan, and I knew it was true when he first reported it. But..... George II Dec 2013 #6

I liked what the secretary had to say... JHB Dec 2013 #9

Too Bad Dan Rather Didn't Track Down Ms. Knox Before DallasNE Dec 2013 #14

That was his mistake. Eleanors38 Dec 2013 #27

The "news" media skipped that part n/t wryter2000 Dec 2013 #42

I gotta say, as bad as he was hosed, at least he is still around- albeit not where I would like. silvershadow Dec 2013 #12

Video alp227 Dec 2013 #15

Where in that video did he deny a double standard? Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #26

The RWNJ's view being combat dodging a heroic act. 4bucksagallon Dec 2013 #16

Bill Burkett forged the documents creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #18

So in your opinion was the story true or not, regardless of Burkett? nt brush Dec 2013 #28

Thank You On the Road Dec 2013 #32

With no facts. The poster is stating opinion which has NEVER duffyduff Dec 2013 #70

Maybe That's Why I Never Heard That Version Before On the Road Dec 2013 #88

There is overwhelming evidence that creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #94

please provide some sources for your version of events grasswire Dec 2013 #55

The allegations seemed to be pulled out of thin air. duffyduff Dec 2013 #71

agreed wholeheartedly grasswire Dec 2013 #81

No, he didn't "forge" them. duffyduff Dec 2013 #69

I agree something stinks here. nt grasswire Dec 2013 #85

I can back up everything creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #96

Are you also alleging that Bush jr. never was AWOL from service? countryjake Dec 2013 #87

I agree with you creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #93

Of Course It Was colsohlibgal Dec 2013 #19

At the time, I happened to watch the show during which Rather proved the story was true. merrily Dec 2013 #20

Does anyone have a link to an article about the segment that 60 Minutes decided not Hissyspit Dec 2013 #21

Right here... countryjake Dec 2013 #72

Excellent! Thank you so much. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #76

For anyone interested ... undiegrinder Dec 2013 #22

Thanks for the informative link! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2013 #23

Excellent article! nt adirondacker Dec 2013 #47

well that was certainly depressing reading. the whole flight deck landing story was, and remains, niyad Dec 2013 #53

Welcome to DU, undiegrinder! calimary Dec 2013 #54

My understanding was that... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #25

Rather is correct in pointing up the similiarities and differences marshall Dec 2013 #29

Rather is right Gothmog Dec 2013 #30

differences Calista241 Dec 2013 #33

We had a right to the truth about AWOL Bush before we cast a vote. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #48

It definitely was not a blatant attempt to move polls/votes from one candidate to another blackspade Dec 2013 #51

Believe Calista241 Dec 2013 #58

remember, we had the TANG documents in 2000! grasswire Dec 2013 #59

of course it was true heaven05 Dec 2013 #34

Kick this one. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #35

It still is... KansDem Dec 2013 #36

Doesn't that look just instill confidence, security and comfort in you? ffr Dec 2013 #39

And this was *after* he was told America was under attack... KansDem Dec 2013 #56

Yes. davidthegnome Dec 2013 #37

Yup. We miss your level headed pragmatic journalism Mr. Rather. ffr Dec 2013 #38

Recommend jsr Dec 2013 #43

Of course the story is true. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #44

R#167 & K n/t UTUSN Dec 2013 #49

Isn't "the complaint" not just that "where you got to the truth was flawed", but hughee99 Dec 2013 #50

Dan Rather kpete Dec 2013 #57

It's threads like this that make me wish we had had keyword search capability on the archives. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #61

There is one assertion on this thread that is totally unsubstantiated duffyduff Dec 2013 #74

Dan Rather's producer's name is Mary Mapes. Her book... countryjake Dec 2013 #75

Right on! nt Brainstormy Dec 2013 #78

Yes, everyone here at DU at the time knew this and were pointing it out. Hissyspit Dec 2013 #79

yep yurbud Dec 2013 #62

Maybe if that whole "What's the frequency, Keneth?" thing hadn't happened prior..... marble falls Dec 2013 #68

So? Hissyspit Dec 2013 #80

Just a joke about why Dan got fired. I haven't liked him since his Houston weatherman days .... marble falls Dec 2013 #89

Why daybranch Dec 2013 #73

He has said it many times before. Rather has never backed down about the story. Boomerproud Dec 2013 #82

Let's keep this story on the front burner. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #83

The trashing of Rather's true story has cost our country dearly. JEFF9K Dec 2013 #86

I undid my rec and then recced again. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #95