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Showing Original Post only (View all)Judge says giant cross must be removed from San Diego mountain [View all]
Source: CNN
A giant cross that has stood on a Southern California mountain for decades must be removed because it violates the constitutional separation of church and state, a judge ordered this week.
The order Thursday by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns continues a long legal battle about the 43-foot cross atop Mt. Soledad in San Diego.
Burns ordered that the cross would have to be removed within 90 days. But the cross may be able to stay if the case is appealed, the judge ordered.
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Bailey said his organization plans to appeal, which would mean the cross would stay as the decades-long legal battle continued.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/13/justice/california-cross-battle/
Good.
RW coworker is outraged about this ruling. Also good.
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Good. I think we should start a fundraiser to sponsor installation of giant FSM statue
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#2
Our Constitution now applies to a religious symbol in another nation? What is going on here?
jwirr
Dec 2013
#4
Sorry I was thinking about the statue in South America. I am 72 years old - and wrong some of the
jwirr
Dec 2013
#51
Dynamite it in place and use the scrap to make Darwin Fish trunk medallions. nt
Demo_Chris
Dec 2013
#6
Actually, no. It became a Korean War Memorial back in 1989/1990. It was an Easter Cross in 1954.
haele
Dec 2013
#71
CNN - the OP's wrong. The Korean War Memorial was added to the base of the cross.
haele
Dec 2013
#108
An issue so asinine that only the asinine would "fight any effort to remove it...."?
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#80
Actually, in this case, I think you're the target of the "too bad", regardless of your petulance
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#125
When it DOES come down, I want a turn swinging the sledge hammer, just to piss YOU off.
Ian David
Dec 2013
#95
Because it's a giant religious symbol on public land and implies an official imprimatur. n/t
Ian David
Dec 2013
#93
I want this put up to honor all the muslims that have died in service to our country.
neverforget
Dec 2013
#141
It's an urgent issue to those fighting an implicit government endorsement of a religion.
maxsolomon
Dec 2013
#53
at one time, vast majority of americans didn't give a shit if negroes could vote
frylock
Dec 2013
#79
Not all of your father's buddies were chrisTians. And not all of the taxpayers paying for that land.
Ian David
Dec 2013
#65
I can only imagine that many other people too, pretend to themselves they are clever enough to know
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#82
Look, Ranchemp. I've got the same position on this as I did on the Palinesque opportunism when the
freshwest
Dec 2013
#131
Actually, word from long-term La Jollans is that it was originally put up to mark a covenant area.
haele
Dec 2013
#64
Apparently it was not, you are wrong. I thought you were sworn to defend the Constitution.
Hoyt
Dec 2013
#110
Again, it was erected as an "Easter Cross", not a War Memorial. That was put in around 1990.
haele
Dec 2013
#114
Nope, because all other faiths have their symbols too - Pagans have the Pentagram, Asatru have
Hestia
Dec 2013
#133
At least be honest and accurate-- in memorium for dead vets if for no other reason.
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#127
Why couldn't they just add a little to the design so it's not a cross anymore?
Kablooie
Dec 2013
#15
I say cut off the the right and left part of the cross and name it "Our Festivus Pole"
BlueJazz
Dec 2013
#16
I'm so tired of all the Festivus believers trying to push Festivus on the Rest of Us.
olddad56
Dec 2013
#21
Wow, that giant is really, really happy to see you and/or pummel you with a stick
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#25
It is so cool how y'all rechalk it every 7 years (correct?)! Now *that's* history
Hestia
Dec 2013
#134
Seems like a technical violation of the second commandment, doesn't it?
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#26
If Jesus had arrived in 1950's America....would Christians be walking around with tiny...
PassingFair
Dec 2013
#129
There will be a war within the FOX "News" audience as well. Some vets for, some vets against.
kelliekat44
Dec 2013
#43
Great Result! Those decades of effort will now feed, clothe, and shelter thousands!
onehandle
Dec 2013
#34
We had a similar controversy with the old tall cross on Skinner's butte near the center of Eugene...
Nika
Dec 2013
#59
Simultaneously, a subtle victory in preventing one additional step in allowing religious law to run
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#88
""jumping the shark" ring a bell to you?" Yes-- your posts now that you mention it.
LanternWaste
Dec 2013
#128