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12. Another advantage of privatizing.

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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:42 AM

Dec 2013

That's why we all love republicans. Their policies are so helpful.

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Snowden stole 'keys to the kingdom': NSA official [View all] Zorro Dec 2013 OP

Starship Cmdr. Alexander *let* Snowden steal this stuff. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #1

Off with the king's head /nt jakeXT Dec 2013 #54

Adversaries, meaning the American people. RC Dec 2013 #2

Adversaries, meaning the Russians and the Chinese Zorro Dec 2013 #7

And the American people. RC Dec 2013 #10

Nope. Unless you are plotting against this country Zorro Dec 2013 #13

You are reading that wrong. RC Dec 2013 #66

and your evidence? frylock Dec 2013 #91

You're going to need to answer two questions for me, please: LeftyMom Dec 2013 #3

Maybe this is why the Saudi-9/11 stuff is coming up again yurbud Dec 2013 #4

"Maybe this is why the Saudi-9/11 stuff is coming up again" KansDem Dec 2013 #44

Wouldn't that be amazing... go west young man Dec 2013 #82

Here's the CBS link... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #5

Good for him. Stuff needed a little more sunlight. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #6

A bigger question is who else stole the keys and what did they do with them? kickysnana Dec 2013 #8

Snowden has compromised intelligence gathering methods and techniques Zorro Dec 2013 #11

Are you stealing Manny's shtick? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #15

Serious as a heart attack Zorro Dec 2013 #16

What makes you think anything accessible to a low level contractor wasn't known by "our adversaries" LeftyMom Dec 2013 #19

Why do you think his access was somehow limited Zorro Dec 2013 #22

Are you accusing the NSA of gross incompetence? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #25

I guess you know more about the situation than the NSA spokesmen Zorro Dec 2013 #28

i think many have wisely decided not to take at face value what the nice NSA spokesmodel has to say frylock Dec 2013 #92

A position right out of the Condi Rice playbook Zorro Dec 2013 #103

beg pardon? frylock Dec 2013 #117

Not so much "knows more"... Dr. Strange Dec 2013 #105

He sweet-talked his way into getting into places he shouldn't have been jmowreader Dec 2013 #34

If he could do that, why couldn't a trained spy? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #36

Thanks for pointing out those here who are scratching like dogs warrant46 Dec 2013 #88

You are a scaredy boy.. sendero Dec 2013 #121

Sorry, I am not about to shoot the messanger and let the bad guys go. kickysnana Dec 2013 #90

Are you asserting that there are no terrorist threats to the US? Zorro Dec 2013 #108

"OUR" adversaries! how funny! MNBrewer Dec 2013 #9

I suppose you don't recall the events of September 11 Zorro Dec 2013 #14

You have evidence Snowden gave "the keys to the kingdom" to some Saudi religious fanatics? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #17

Apparently willful ignorance is not an exclusively Republican characteristic Zorro Dec 2013 #18

So you don't have evidence? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #20

The people that know have been making it quite clear Zorro Dec 2013 #23

I'm skeptical of unevidenced assertions. You should be too. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #26

Perhaps you recall this statement Zorro Dec 2013 #29

Nobody on this thread appears to be buying this shit. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #30

Are you asserting that Snowden did not compromise the security of the country? Zorro Dec 2013 #32

That's not how evidence works. You need to prove that he did. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #33

These are administration spokesmen and people familiar with the situation making these statements Zorro Dec 2013 #35

I'm wondering what color the sky is on your planet. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #37

Do you think the Obama administration is misleading the citizens on this matter? Zorro Dec 2013 #38

I don't believe anybody's unevidenced assertions, and I'm certainly not about to start for LeftyMom Dec 2013 #45

Being in bed carla Dec 2013 #58

Condi Rice was lying solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #70

"Apparently willful ignorance is not an exclusively Republican characteristic" dotymed Dec 2013 #63

For someone who's posted their opinions thousands of times Zorro Dec 2013 #77

And you don't seem to recall that 9/11 could Hissyspit Dec 2013 #27

Citing 9/11? carla Dec 2013 #57

Russian authorities warned us twice about the elder Boston Bomber Brother MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #62

I recall the events of September 11 OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #68

So what's your solution to the threat of terrorism? Zorro Dec 2013 #104

To start, the US government could stop killing people in foreign countries OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #106

What dictatorships is the US propping up for the benefit of large corporations? Zorro Dec 2013 #107

I cant speak for Onyx but KSA and big oilco comes to mind immediately nt riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #110

I'd argue that maintaining a strong relationship with the KSA is beneficial for everyone Zorro Dec 2013 #113

"...maintaining a strong relationship with the KSA is beneficial for everyone." OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #116

We prop up their dictators period. You asked and I gave you an answer. riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #120

Well, the US did prop up Qaddafi. OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #114

September 11, 2001. Why didn't the NSA warn us of the coming attack? RC Dec 2013 #69

They say that had too much data to "connect the dots." Pholus Dec 2013 #98

More than likely, Cheney told them to not bother with that information. RC Dec 2013 #99

It'll be fun to find out! Pholus Dec 2013 #100

no, what's that? frylock Dec 2013 #93

Another advantage of privatizing. Turbineguy Dec 2013 #12

I love Snowden and wish there were more Whistle blowers annm4peace Dec 2013 #21

Snowden has betrayed the USA Zorro Dec 2013 #24

I don't believe you are going to convince anyone here of what you say. grasswire Dec 2013 #39

It's also the opinion of administration officials Zorro Dec 2013 #40

well, no grasswire Dec 2013 #43

The NSA is a danger to Americans. JackRiddler Dec 2013 #72

I take care of my own safety nilesobek Dec 2013 #87

What is your evidence that he provided them to "our" adversaries? JDPriestly Dec 2013 #31

Is the collection of metadata a greater threat than planes flying into buildings? Zorro Dec 2013 #41

Irrational fear of terrorism is a bigger threat to our democracy. ronnie624 Dec 2013 #51

So what's your solution to the threat of terrorism? Zorro Dec 2013 #109

More cooperative relations with other countries ronnie624 Dec 2013 #118

Yes. The collection of metadata is the greater threat to our country. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #52

Use a phone? The phone companies collect your metadata Zorro Dec 2013 #76

I find it quite disturbing that people OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #80

We have no constitutionally protected right to third-party business records such as metadata. randome Dec 2013 #81

There is no democracy without First Amendment rights and the surveillance JDPriestly Dec 2013 #102

So what rights have been eradicated? Zorro Dec 2013 #111

Please study up on the concept of "chilling speech" which is fundamental to our constitutional law JDPriestly Dec 2013 #115

Attempting to stoke "fear" won't work on this site. NorthCarolina Dec 2013 #84

The NSA didn't uncover nor stop the planes from flying in the building annm4peace Dec 2013 #97

If that stuff was so top secret then why were contractors allowed access to that information AZ Progressive Dec 2013 #42

Heads rolling? SoapBox Dec 2013 #46

oh looky, more redbaiting bullshit.. frylock Dec 2013 #94

Benghazi! GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #47

Does that mean I have to take a drink now? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #49

And what kingdom is that again? DeSwiss Dec 2013 #48

The Kingdom of Mordor JackRiddler Dec 2013 #73

... BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #96

"Our" adversaries? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #50

Bastard stole my car keys too! n/t Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2013 #53

It's a War on the Average American Citizen blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #55

I think he read one of my e-mails. I swear I do. Hey, look over there- a shiny thing. silvershadow Dec 2013 #56

It's not a kingdom, it's a criminal enterprise. JackRiddler Dec 2013 #59

+100000000 woo me with science Dec 2013 #101

+another 200000000 nt riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #112

�60 Minutes� on Snowden and NSA mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #60

First they insist no Americans were being spied on, now they admit they ARE spying on Americans riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #61

Most likely those 60 are in contact with foreign individuals. randome Dec 2013 #71

Snowden stole 'keys to the kingdom'. And provided them to our adversaries. Autumn Dec 2013 #64

FFS, is this 1952? nt TBF Dec 2013 #65

Snowden gave the keys to the American people. He is a hero. End of story. on point Dec 2013 #67

Is the company that Snowden worked for still in business? adirondacker Dec 2013 #74

I don't recall if the vetting process was outside Booz-Allen or not. randome Dec 2013 #75

I'm a bit jaded and sceptical when it comes to mixing corporate business and Our Government. adirondacker Dec 2013 #85

Hell, private contracting is EVERYWHERE. It endangers corporations as well as government. randome Dec 2013 #86

Ironically, adirondacker Dec 2013 #89

I'm a contractor, too, and sometimes I enjoy that freedom but... randome Dec 2013 #95

yeah and how many other hundreds of people had similar access to those files & didn't get caught. Sunlei Dec 2013 #78

A lot more now since those files are presumably on corporate media servers across the world. randome Dec 2013 #79

Snowden stole 'keys to the kingdom' Sure did! polynomial Dec 2013 #83

The lack security at the NSA means that any adversary could have also stolen these same files... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #119