13 Shot Outside Arizona Nightclub

[Honeycombe8]

68. I think concealed carrying laws exclude places that sell liquor or post signs...

or post signs prohibiting the carrying of guns, concealed or otherwise. I would think that ALL bars have that sign posted, don't you think?

I live in TX, too. I've seen "guns not allowed" signs posted in a number of places, which is telling concealed carriers to de-pack before entering.

My point being that the guns in this instance were being illegally carried, like in the school where the shooting incident happened just a few days ago.

I didn't mean, by my OP, to imply that the problem was the guns, although that was no doubt the reason that the count was 13. But I think that even if the perpetrators hadn't had guns, they would've used knives or something else.

There seems to be a wave of violence in pubic places, with mass injury and murder, going on. Guns do make it easier, though. It's easier to use a gun than a knife and it's more impersonal.