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brett_jv

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12. How do you NOT understand ...
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:33 PM
Dec 2013

Look at the headline, and then this blurb from the excerpt: "Currently, people buying sex can be fined or jailed for up to a year,".

A valid implication to be derived here is that the Swedes are cracking down on ALL sex-purchasing, even between consenting (i.e. non-minor/non-trafficked) adults. So that understanding is CLEARLY what the person you're responding to is referring to.

You are interpreting this article 'one way' (i.e. the ONLY thing in question w/the new laws are obvious types of rape), but your debate opponent is reading it a DIFFERENT way (that ALL "johns" are being cracked down on, regardless of consenting adults). There's really no way of telling which of you is 'right' from what's posted in the OP. Both interpretations are 'valid'. However, you seem to be the only one who is INSISTING that your understanding MUST be the 'correct' one ... and worse, using your MAYBE correct interpretation (but clearly NOT the one your opponent is arguing) to basically call him a supporter of child molestation and rape. That is really lame, IMHO.

Of COURSE nobody would argue that it's unreasonable to impose a 1 year minimum (the vast majority of people would say that's a little short, actually) on someone who *knowingly* pays for sex w/someone who's being trafficked, or who is below the legal age of consent, whatever that may be in Sweden.

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How is throwing people in prison for sex anything but puritanism? Kurska Dec 2013 #1
Buying sex from minors and trafficking victims is rape, and opposing rape is not prudishness. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #2
Yup, that part was clearly what I was talking about. Kurska Dec 2013 #3
Boo hoo that men don't have the freedom to buy the opportunity to rape a kid or trafficking victim. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #4
It is amazing, do you even read my posts? Kurska Dec 2013 #5
the new law targets those who (a) buy sex with minors and (b) knowingly geek tragedy Dec 2013 #6
Psstt, buddy Kurska Dec 2013 #7
Don't waste your time. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #8
You've really outderped yourself. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #10
I meant the 1999 law woops, you're horrible wrong too though. Kurska Dec 2013 #11
The proposal UNDER DISCUSSION HERE geek tragedy Dec 2013 #13
That's really just an abhorrent style of 'debate' on your part ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #15
Four legal options have been presented three in the OP. Let me break it down for you. Kurska Dec 2013 #16
"sexual fascism" gimme a break. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #19
How on earth is throwing people in jail for consensual sex anything but sexual fascism? Kurska Dec 2013 #20
As far as I can tell, your concern is protecting the ability of men geek tragedy Dec 2013 #22
Men and women should be allowed to buy and sell sex, yes. Kurska Dec 2013 #23
That you're defending pimps says it all. Last word is yours. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #24
"But you know how you get rid of pimps (which I do want to do)"- Me. Kurska Dec 2013 #25
You just received a trolling of the very worst sort ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #28
Man, I hope so. Kurska Dec 2013 #30
That's that person's constant Modus Operendi. Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #39
Exactly ... and further underground means ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #26
Good post, the war on drugs analogy is very apt. n/t Kurska Dec 2013 #29
Regulating Legal Prostitution FrodosPet Dec 2013 #32
Well if you want me to break down my vision of it. Kurska Dec 2013 #33
Because naughty is more fun? FrodosPet Dec 2013 #34
It won't eliminate the entire black market, nothing in history can eliminate the entire black market Kurska Dec 2013 #35
Cigarettes and alcohol would be a good simile FrodosPet Dec 2013 #36
And if there are problems with the system, they can be solved. Kurska Dec 2013 #37
How do you NOT understand ... brett_jv Dec 2013 #12
Except I actually read the article geek tragedy Dec 2013 #14
Maybe so .. but the 'honest' thing to do is help the other person understand their mistake brett_jv Dec 2013 #17
There are two different laws here. Kurska Dec 2013 #21
Jesus Mary and Joesph, I am talking about the other law. Kurska Dec 2013 #18
Reinfeldt is a idiot. jessie04 Dec 2013 #9
he is a jerk for a stronger sentence raping a child and raping a sex slave? wow. progressive much? seabeyond Dec 2013 #27
That's already illegal davidn3600 Dec 2013 #38
it is illegal and he is wanting to increase the punishment. seabeyond Dec 2013 #40
why not arrest them both they're adults? Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #31
I don't think selling sex should carry any criminal penalties. Especially considering how many nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #42
"Mandatory prison sentence for buying sex from minors." That I have no problem with. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #41
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