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mountain grammy

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40. I can understand your rage, for reasons I will not give you an "answer in detail"

Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:52 AM

Dec 2013

because I don't think it's productive, but I cannot agree with you.
Please remember the world just buried Nelson Mandela this week. He didn't retain his rage like you have, and his struggles for equality against massive and violent resistance make yours look, well, kind of not so much. He embraced his tormentors and saved his nation. They have a long way to go, but they're still there.
I could say the same for Martin Luther King and other African American leaders who continue to move forward despite massive and violent resistance until, slowly, and while many more died for the cause, effected change that is still happening today. No progress is possible if every change in power ends with revenge.

You attack me personally without knowing anything about me, which tells me so much about you.

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