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77. GOP Congress has kept us from working with China
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:53 AM
Dec 2013

What stupid, short-sighted thinking.

Despite growing trade ties between both countries, a close scientific partnership with China has been rejected by several American politicians including Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA), who in 1999 stated:
"They (China) are the evil empire".[3]
In 2010, Rep. John Culberson (R-TX) urged President Barack Obama not to allow further contact between NASA and the China National Space Administration (CNSA). In a letter addressed to the President, he wrote:
I have grave concerns about the nature and goals of China’s space program and strongly oppose any cooperation between NASA and CNSA’s human space flight programs without Congressional authorization.[4][5]
In April 2011, the 112th United States Congress banned NASA from using its funds to host Chinese visitors at NASA facilities.[2] As stated under Public Law 112-55, SEC. 539:

Geoffrey Marcy, an astronomy professor at the University of California, Berkeley, called the ban "completely shameful and unethical".[1] Sir Martin Rees, the current Astronomer Royal of Great Britain, called the ban a "deplorable 'own goal' by the US".[1]
In 2013, a number of American scientists decided to boycott a NASA meeting, with senior academics either withdrawing individually, or pulling out their entire research groups.[1] This was in response to actions by officials at NASA Ames to prohibit Chinese nationals from attending the Kepler Science Conference II. Rep. Frank Wolf was quick to respond in a letter to NASA Administrator Charlie Bolden, saying that the restriction only applied to bilateral meetings and activities between NASA and the Chinese government or Chinese-owned companies. The NASA Ames officials had mischaracterized the law as Kepler Science Conference II is a multilateral event.[8]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_exclusion_policy_of_NASA

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so are they gonna build a walmart? nt msongs Dec 2013 #1
No. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #3
A Starbucks? sakabatou Dec 2013 #20
That's pretty offensive. eggplant Dec 2013 #13
Is it anymore offensive than when people make comments about finding/stealing oil on penultimate Dec 2013 #49
Um, nice strawman there. eggplant Dec 2013 #63
I am impressed with it, but just 'cause they aren't the US penultimate Dec 2013 #64
You are welcome to make such jokes. eggplant Dec 2013 #66
What's being joked about is the space program, not the race or ethnicity of the people behind it penultimate Dec 2013 #73
Walmart is a Person NobodyHere Dec 2013 #72
Build a Walmart? SoapBox Dec 2013 #16
Is that usual after a non-manned lunar landing? LanternWaste Dec 2013 #48
Naaah.... maybe a low-g sweat shop to make it more difficult for employees to jump to their deaths penultimate Dec 2013 #50
walmart is an american company JI7 Dec 2013 #58
These are the voyages... postulater Dec 2013 #2
+1 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #4
It sent back a selfie? nt valerief Dec 2013 #5
No, the lander took a picture of the rover bhikkhu Dec 2013 #15
I know. It's another place for countries to war over. nt valerief Dec 2013 #24
It's a soundstage in Beijing... Archae Dec 2013 #6
Not so Duer 157099 Dec 2013 #7
The flag... SoapBox Dec 2013 #17
Oh, that's the moon? I thought it was Beijing with all the pollution. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #27
MAN has transmission quality improved! I hope we find a way to work together. nolabear Dec 2013 #8
Dark Side billhicks76 Dec 2013 #19
The sun rotates Paulie Dec 2013 #23
It rotates. But that period is the same as its revolution. immoderate Dec 2013 #26
Mercury is tidally locked to the Sun but not the same way the Moon is to the Earth Fumesucker Dec 2013 #41
The moon rotates too. Deep13 Dec 2013 #30
I believe the moon always faces earth from the same side because... mallard Dec 2013 #62
Possibly. Most of the lava plains are on the near side. The moon is tidally locked. Deep13 Dec 2013 #69
The Earth may never be tidally locked to the moon. Xithras Dec 2013 #78
First, it's the far side, not the dark side. The Moon rotates once every 28 days, meaning........ LongTomH Dec 2013 #39
First thing it does is send back a Selfie SkatmanRoth Dec 2013 #9
Um, it didn't take a picture of itself. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #40
I'm pretty sure that's a joke... penultimate Dec 2013 #51
Ok, I see it now. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #67
This is awesome! Mojo Electro Dec 2013 #10
If they wanted Moon rocks we could have sold them some.. Historic NY Dec 2013 #11
Most excellent. Congrats to the design team. eggplant Dec 2013 #12
Good for them n2doc Dec 2013 #14
An early step. The Chinese have a reported 1,000,000 people working on their space program ... Scuba Dec 2013 #18
and our government is working on bailing out, protecting from prosecution, and stacking the deck for yurbud Dec 2013 #68
I figured we would have a base up there by now Garion_55 Dec 2013 #21
I'm with you, Friend LongTomH Dec 2013 #36
Wow. Imagine when the first man walks on that alien terrain NoOneMan Dec 2013 #22
In other news, China has now declared the moon as part of their air-space... icymist Dec 2013 #25
Go team China! defacto7 Dec 2013 #28
Isn't that how the ISS works? penultimate Dec 2013 #54
Theoretically yes. defacto7 Dec 2013 #55
But we have forbidden China's participation in ISS mainer Dec 2013 #76
Just to put this into perspective... Deep13 Dec 2013 #29
what have we done lately? olddad56 Dec 2013 #31
Curiosity for one sarin Dec 2013 #33
Cassini at Saturn, New Horizons en route to Pluto... Deep13 Dec 2013 #57
Haha, the US has DOMINATED at solar system probes since the 90s: joshcryer Dec 2013 #59
I wonder how many of the scientists and engineers were educated in the US? olddad56 Dec 2013 #32
I wonder how much of OUR technology they stole to make this happen. n/t JeffHead Dec 2013 #34
I share all my technology under Open Source or Creative Commons licenses. hunter Dec 2013 #47
while the chinese are rapidly catching up to us in technology Dustin DeWinde Dec 2013 #35
Catching up? ramapo Dec 2013 #38
they wont pass us this year or next Dustin DeWinde Dec 2013 #42
We should be ashamed and embarressed ramapo Dec 2013 #37
we have a much healthier, much more inclusive society than we did in 1969 Dustin DeWinde Dec 2013 #43
What about all the recent missions that JPL sent to Mars and Jupiter? penultimate Dec 2013 #52
The manned space program is not the end all. joshcryer Dec 2013 #60
Mars Curiosity rover finds life-supporting chemicals jtuck004 Dec 2013 #44
Oh, and everything NASA produces is public domain... joshcryer Dec 2013 #61
"everything NASA produces is public domain" < Very likely not, but most of it, probably. jtuck004 Dec 2013 #71
Fair enough, I should've said "publicly releases." joshcryer Dec 2013 #74
wonder where the studio iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #45
It's on Mars. penultimate Dec 2013 #53
It's on Titan. kentauros Dec 2013 #56
Moonies? Martak Sarno Dec 2013 #46
Is that snow on the wheels?? jessie04 Dec 2013 #65
No, it's light. Ash_F Dec 2013 #70
uh-oh - don't like the looks of this one Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2013 #75
GOP Congress has kept us from working with China mainer Dec 2013 #77
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