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31. NO NO NO - that is the chairmen's letter - the people who are AGAINST the Menendez bill

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 07:04 PM

Dec 2013

(read the second page of the ABC article)

Note these are 10 of the most important Senators there are and Reid has blocked the bill. I assume that they will be able to keep enough support - even if they have to use their positions - and they have a lot of power.

In fact, I think Boxer could even take SFRC away from Menendez when they reorganize after Nov 2014 - if she wanted to. She beats him on seniority - but wanted to keep the environmental chair.

Here are the people behind this ridiculous bill:

The Democratic co-sponsors are Sens. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), Ben Cardin (Md.), Bob Casey Jr. (Pa.), Chris Coons (Del.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Richard Blumenthal (Conn.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Mark Pryor (Ark.), Mark Warner (Va.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), and Joe Donnelly (Ind.).

Every Democrat considered vulnerable in his or her race for reelection next year is co-sponsoring this measure, a sign that they want to appear tough on foreign policy.

The Republican co-sponsors are Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.), John McCain (Ariz.), Marco Rubio (Fla.), John Cornyn (Texas), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Susan Collins (Maine), Jerry Moran (Kan.), Pat Roberts (Kan.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), Ted Cruz (Texas), and Roy Blunt (Mo.).

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/193669-dems-divided-on-tougher-iran-sanctions-as-bill

My comment - "tough" or in sync with AIPAC?

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26 Senators Defy Obama, Back Iran Sanctions Bill [View all] Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP

Let me guess... Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #1

Probably not. AIPAC has a wide spectrum of support, unfortunately. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #2

Its mainly Sen Chuck Scumer warrant46 Dec 2013 #46

Coons, Cardin, and other 'liberals' cosponsored. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #47

Yes I saw that too. warrant46 Dec 2013 #48

Schumer is an unprincipled panderer on Israel who knows better. Menendez is just a neocon asshat geek tragedy Dec 2013 #49

I have seen that too warrant46 Dec 2013 #50

Not Third Way - Fifth Column nt Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #8

Didn't they watch the last episode of Homeland? Saul was right!!!! benld74 Dec 2013 #3

Any word on who the remaining 11 dems are? geardaddy Dec 2013 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #13

NO NO NO - that is the chairmen's letter - the people who are AGAINST the Menendez bill karynnj Dec 2013 #31

I'm really dumb sometimes. Thanks the heads up! Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #32

You are not dumb! karynnj Dec 2013 #35

Co-Sponsors Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #41

Schumer I'm not surprised at, but Coons, Blumenthal, and Gillibrand Arkana Dec 2013 #44

I called Cardin's office to complain Nancy Waterman Dec 2013 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #43

They can "compel" Obama to start or join a war? Based on a foreign country's wishes? TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #5

"Congress shall have power to ... declare War". atreides1 Dec 2013 #9

How can they get around the President, who is the Commander in Chief? TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #15

Congress declares war, Commander in Chief tells military to stand down? Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #19

Don't know either. That would be a crisis. There'd have to be a military coup. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #20

President is Commander in Chief, he could tell Congress to go fight it themselves. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #23

It's a bit more mixed in the Constitution than that karynnj Dec 2013 #36

I didn't realize these guys had (D-Tel Aviv) after their names. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #6

It would be a lot cheaper MyNameGoesHere Dec 2013 #7

And people actually wonder why there's no peace in the Middle East. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #10

Yeh. that's for sure the only reason. HERVEPA Dec 2013 #30

Not the only reason, but one of them. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #40

Every once in awhile Israel has to flex their muscles Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #11

Fortunately Obama has said he'll veto sharp_stick Dec 2013 #12

10 of the most powerful Chairman signed a letter against it karynnj Dec 2013 #37

headline should really be... iamthebandfanman Dec 2013 #14

This time they did it with help from an equal number of Democrats. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #24

easy MFM008 Dec 2013 #16

The envelope was a little heavier this month 1000words Dec 2013 #17

I think that sabbat hunter Dec 2013 #18

The point is there is no reason to do this now -- and it could derail negotiations karynnj Dec 2013 #28

I disagree sabbat hunter Dec 2013 #33

I would imagine that Secretary Kerry who has regulary spoken with the Iranian FM and Obama karynnj Dec 2013 #38

I agree with pretty much everything you say, but do agree that now might not be the time. painesghost Dec 2013 #34

Think, please. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #53

No the idea is sabbat hunter Dec 2013 #57

Until they propose Sanctions against Saudi Arabia, then they should STFU. Blue State Bandit Dec 2013 #21

You deserve a massive plus one! Enthusiast Dec 2013 #42

Who were the turncoat 13 Dems cyclezealot Dec 2013 #22

Shameful. /nt Ash_F Dec 2013 #25

I called my Senators offices in Washington two days ago Tom Rinaldo Dec 2013 #26

Thank you for your activism and courage. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #29

I am sorry I volunteered even one second for Menendez karynnj Dec 2013 #27

It is because of things like this why I do not send money to the DNC anymore lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #52

I'll be bugging both my senators to vote no davidpdx Dec 2013 #39

This is the nonsense the President has been up against since 2008. Does anyone really think single lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #51

Senators To Override Obama�s Iran Veto Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #54

Senate makes move toward vote on Iran sanctions bill despite Obama threat to veto Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #55

White House to Senate Dems: Your Iran sanctions bill makes war more likely Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #56

Whose supposition is it that Iran won't follow the terms it agreed to? marshall Dec 2013 #58