13 Shot Outside Arizona Nightclub

[LiberalLovinLug]

86. I respect your tone and attempt to discuss reasonably

I do think however that you have far from proven anything.
Pulling out two countries that buck the trend does not counter the many countries that do not. Both have unique situations.

The Bahamas are unique in their proximity to the mainland USA. Gun running is rampant. They have more guns there than anywhere. (Although if the US had tougher gun laws there'd be less around to smuggle.)

In Switzerland the military is compulsory. That means everyone that has a gun is trained and respects the weapon. Many simply take the gun they are given in their service, which is standard and explains much of the proliferation. Its a whole different attitude.

The drop in overall crime rates is a phenom that is worldwide, at least in Democracies. But you can never win the argument that over all, places with stricter handgun control, do not have less proportion of gun violence.

It just makes sense. If you raise a child in a room full of candies laying everywhere, and one where they are strictly rationed, the first one will most likely get more cavities. I don't know how many analogies you need to see the point. The more hand guns laying around the more they will be used, accidentally or otherwise.

Once again I understand not wanting to give up a right like to have every kind of personal firing device ever invented, and the lure of such powerful deadly things is intoxicating. Its an addiction that America will probably never kick because its so ingrained into not only the Constitution (I think) but the entertainment culture and political culture as well.

I am just so thankful that I live in a place where guns are not easily accessible. We have our share of right wing unstable morans up here too and I shudder to think of all of them walking the streets with concealed hand guns.

On another note, you guys have some fine breweries down there as well. More of your choices are coming up here now. I finally get to buy Rolling Rock locally now! Yum.