13 Shot Outside Arizona Nightclub

[LiberalLovinLug]

95. One more time

No one is probably reading this thread by now but I thought I'd respond once more.

Yes I saw that murder rates went up 5% in England and Wales last year. But couldn't that be just a natural fluctuation? They did have those riots. Isn't the USA still ahead on all murder stats per population?

Germany is different than New Zealand. Germany has a much longer history involving wars and military service. I'm sure there are more than a few leftover Lugers still floating around from the second world war. Its only natural they'd be more gun happy than New Zealand.

All I am saying is look at it from a common sense point of view. The more guns scattered throughout society, whether it be gun trade shows, gun stores, flea markets, second hand sellers, and then the underground market of guns that are there to be stolen or bought under the table just because of the sheer volume.
Combine that easy accessibility with human emotion and its no wonder that gun violence is so high in your country.

I am thankful to live in a peaceful society, and by peaceful I don't mean the kind of false "peace" of a cold war. I mean literally I am relaxed when I go about my daily business knowing that there is such an infantile chance that someone I interact with will be carrying a gun that I don't even have to think about it. I've only ever seen a pistol up close once when younger and had a couple of unsavory acquaintances....and that was an illegal one smuggled up from the land of guns down south. And yeah it was a thrill, feeling the weight of it, knowing what it could do.

Saying all that, coming from a Mennonite heritage with a long history of pacifism, if I lived in the deep south of America, I can't say that I wouldn't buy a gun for protection either. The pendulum has swung so far there is no going back. Its like Obama giving in to Citizens United and declining public financing. He knows he can't compete with the Republicans if he doesn't. I guess I just feel sorry for y'all having to live that way. But I guess if you never know what its like to live in a more gun-free society you don't know what your missing.

And FYI, Molsons is considered the "Macdonalds" of beer makers up here. There are so many more cottage breweries that have sprouted up (down there as well!) that I prefer. As far as older established choices I like Kokanee, Sleemans, Okanagan Spring, Granville Island....well lets face it anything with hops, barley and yeast in it I'll give it a go!