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DFW

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23. Social surcharges of 25%?
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Dec 2013

We have two employees in France, and we pay a little over 50% on top of their gross pay to the government in "charges sociales," while our employees get a little less than 50% of their gross pay. So, if we pay our guys a salary of $80,000, they cost us about $120,000 each, of which they each get to keep about $39,000. In France, it goes to prop the bloated public sector. They do have good social coverage, but they have three administrators for every one they need. In case something should by accident work efficiently, they usually figure out some way to make it more cumbersome and complicated. If some guy makes a salary of a million euros (and not many do), then he costs his employer 1.55 million euros and takes home 340,000 euros, where the government takes 1,210,000 euros. 340,000 euros take home is nothing to sneeze at, but some who see government take over three times as much do say "what's wrong with this picture?"

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I wonder if all the extra tax revenue they collect will go to their military the way it does valerief Dec 2013 #1
Vive le France! Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #2
Good. jsr Dec 2013 #3
"Other developed countries can tax the wealthy, why can't the USA???????????" dotymed Dec 2013 #4
We used to. JHB Dec 2013 #11
No longer related to individuals though. dipsydoodle Dec 2013 #5
Because in the U.S. millionaires and billionaires are more highly valued than Jesus to the GOP. nt onehandle Dec 2013 #6
And a lot of dems, too., nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #12
The rich never pay their "fair share" cohee100 Dec 2013 #7
"Rich people did not get rich by being stupid" Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #8
Yeah, but that dead animal on his head gets great PR! n/t freshwest Dec 2013 #24
Hmmmm...... another trickle down troll groundloop Dec 2013 #9
lol... money does not equal brains fascisthunter Dec 2013 #15
But if all the advanced nations follow suit - TBF Dec 2013 #18
Good job Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #10
Hello, research much? Everyone knows the French... Schema Thing Dec 2013 #13
Okay, that's funny small D democrat Dec 2013 #17
A lot of the law was struck down. Igel Dec 2013 #14
Social surcharges of 25%? DFW Dec 2013 #23
I would have to say Great social coverage in France ... and that includes more than healthcare ... MindMover Dec 2013 #25
Given that (1) companies and people can freely relocate within the EU; Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #16
Sure, relocate like our billionaire USA patriots do ... MindMover Dec 2013 #19
The 2 hours is deceptive DFW Dec 2013 #21
The effect is to pay and play to a more fair and balanced financial environment ... MindMover Dec 2013 #22
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Dec 2013 #20
Tax 'em. They'll still be wealthy Blandocyte Dec 2013 #26
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #27
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