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seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
40. I don't think it works that way.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

No employer has any incentive to change their current wage unless they are forced to. You can't drive wages up by pushing from the bottom, it has to be pulled from up above.

What made the midde class advance was that big employer in town who had positions at tiers from common laborer clear thru skilled up to mgmt levels. There was an established career path and people could advance inside the company.

The bottom tier was usually more than the prevailing wage in the area because the employer valued loyalty and paid for it. There was quite an investment in even the lowest worker.

Add in the deferred compensation in pensions and benefits and that one large employer drove the whole economy of the town. Any other employer had to offer similar benefits to retain their better people.

Then there were the unions that guaranteed that the big employer couldn't start lowballing and use the threat of terminations. That union also guaranteed that the employer couldn't point to the next town over that was offering non-union job at a lower wage and using that as an extortion threat to force the lower wages at the current location.

(Picked up the economic model name the other day for that...beggar-thy-neighbor or race-to-the-bottom).

Then we lost the unions as the outsourcing took away the town's big employer and blamed the union (f'in lie).

So now, where's there to go? Our labor is like the battered wife who has no alternative.

That's wht the democratic platform should be fighting to fix. Get rid of that disgusting right-to-work at the federal level by using the NLRB and NLRA. That's what was promised long ago when that Taft-Hartley screwjob happened.

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Good. k&r n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #1
Minimum Wage yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #30
I agree. Laelth Dec 2013 #31
About time FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #2
a belated response prompted by popular demand and a looming election. KG Dec 2013 #3
Must you piss on this? Please, take a happy pill. This Debbie Downerism really gets old. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #6
No. It's not "Debbie Downerism". Wilms Dec 2013 #36
Debbie Downer LOL n/t KG Dec 2013 #44
Thanks for summarizing one of the (many) causes for my swilton Dec 2013 #37
When all else fails... Demeter Dec 2013 #4
All else hasn't failed.The campaign is just getting started. Must the ultra left crap on everything? RBInMaine Dec 2013 #7
We are just re-gifting what we have already been given. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #22
LOL..... sendero Dec 2013 #48
Hurry! get your bucket out to catch some of the trickle down! adirondacker Jan 2014 #55
Ultra left? Try finding, what used to be, the center just a few decades ago. nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #54
democratic 2014 strategy should be simple beachbum bob Dec 2013 #5
Also include IMMIGRATION REFORM and STUDENT LOAN reform. Go on OFFENSE on these, and you CRUSH the RBInMaine Dec 2013 #9
I think this has been the plan ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #15
It's a start. It needs to be more encompassing and focused ... Auggie Dec 2013 #8
How about: "Renewing The American Dream" or "Rebuilding The Middle Class", or something like that? RBInMaine Dec 2013 #11
Yes, something like that. n/t Auggie Dec 2013 #28
That's fine.. sendero Dec 2013 #49
Here is the ENTIRE agenda the Dems should pursue which would CRUSH the GOP: RBInMaine Dec 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #14
Why are you reading out of the right wing playbook? It is about a PATH to citizenship for people RBInMaine Dec 2013 #16
because the poster failed to take the "don't make an ass out of yourself" primer grantcart Dec 2013 #39
No, it wouldn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #24
Good points Victor_c3 Dec 2013 #35
Good luck with that ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #46
BINGO ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #18
This should be the beginning swilton Dec 2013 #42
Also, ATTACK the GOP for the SHUTDOWN and as the "MOST DO-NOTHING HOUSE OF REPS EVER!" RBInMaine Dec 2013 #12
We need long term solutions...... Cryptoad Dec 2013 #13
Yes, in the longer term. But in the short term, PUSH LIKE HELL for the higher minimum wage. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #17
True dat! nt Cryptoad Dec 2013 #27
I suspect that is coming ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #26
Oh hogwash seabeckind Dec 2013 #19
Addendum seabeckind Dec 2013 #20
Still waiting for card-check. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #25
It should be 21.00! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Dec 2013 #21
I would expand that to include raises for all workers. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #23
I Am Really Happy This issue is Rising to the Top On the Road Dec 2013 #29
I don't think it works that way. seabeckind Dec 2013 #40
In Addition to Minimum-Wage Jobs, On the Road Jan 2014 #51
Also the legalization of medical marijuana. wilsonbooks Dec 2013 #32
Don't forget expanding Social Security too. 4dsc Dec 2013 #33
The Chairman of the Confederation of British Industry intaglio Dec 2013 #34
Also jobs. Nobody You Know Dec 2013 #38
I'd like to see another thing seabeckind Dec 2013 #41
Sounds like a winning strategy. Ash_F Dec 2013 #43
I don't know if that's a good area to focus on. Many minimum wage earners aren't old enough to vote. Pterodactyl Dec 2013 #45
But MOST minimum wage earners ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #47
Thanks, 1Strong! Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #50
To what level? Springslips Jan 2014 #52
YES YES YES! Ash_F Jan 2014 #53
Alms, alms for the poor? reddread Jan 2014 #56
Strategy FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #57
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