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Reply to CTyankee (Reply #104)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 05:06 PM

Jan 2014

One is ideology and the other is physics. Or are you not a member of the reality based community?

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Marines Delay Female Fitness Plan After Half Fail [View all] Purveyor Jan 2014 OP

A good move philosslayer Jan 2014 #1

Doing three pull-ups is unreasonable? dbackjon Jan 2014 #2

Women obviously don't have the upper body strength of men philosslayer Jan 2014 #3

Bullcrap. I know many women that can do three pullups dbackjon Jan 2014 #4

I think you and I are on the same side here.... philosslayer Jan 2014 #9

Need upper body strength in Combat. former9thward Jan 2014 #12

That's the question treestar Jan 2014 #15

A lot hack89 Jan 2014 #18

Women were good haulers treestar Jan 2014 #34

You have to go where the enemy is hack89 Jan 2014 #37

And yet there are complaints about drones! treestar Jan 2014 #57

One wonders if the tens of thousands of Soviet women pressed into successful combat service during W LanternWaste Jan 2014 #60

Bet you most of those Russina women would have had no trouble with 3 little pull ups. Exultant Democracy Jan 2014 #68

It's interesting people don't recognize how unhealthy the american population is... Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #91

Enough to click the mouse to drop the bomb from the drone warrant46 Jan 2014 #64

Number of pull-ups needed to pass the Army PT test: 0 jmowreader Jan 2014 #23

The Army does not have the standards of the Marines. former9thward Jan 2014 #27

Army standards Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #30

The Marines don't have a pushup event on their PFT jmowreader Jan 2014 #56

Not all Army folks civillawyer Jan 2014 #40

Sure. Then, when they have to pull another Marine out of danger, tabasco Jan 2014 #32

I have heard that story so often it is getting me sick and I am male. happyslug Jan 2014 #50

It amazes me how suddenly when this subject of women comes up treestar Jan 2014 #78

My Father, a Normandy Combat vet, told me what he had to do with a wounded soldier happyslug Jan 2014 #85

By now there should be a specialized group with the job of treestar Jan 2014 #90

I take it you have never been in the military wercal Jan 2014 #106

Women could be trained to do it all treestar Jan 2014 #110

Your fixation with the weight of the gear is strange and misguided wercal Jan 2014 #114

Backpacker carry 40 pounds??? happyslug Jan 2014 #141

Well you have obviously done alot of research and scoured wiki articles for information wercal Jan 2014 #143

Those numbers are ridiculous and NOT supportable for any length of time happyslug Jan 2014 #148

You continue to exhibit an extreme lack of comprehension skills wercal Jan 2014 #150

Actually not quite true happyslug Jan 2014 #142

You're kidding right wercal Jan 2014 #145

You should read ACTUAL ARMY REPORTS, they do REPORT use of such people in such roles: happyslug Jan 2014 #147

You still are not understanding wercal Jan 2014 #149

We have had them since WWI, they are known as "Medics" in the Army happyslug Jan 2014 #140

Some men had trouble with the tank rounds wercal Jan 2014 #105

I was in the Field Artillery happyslug Jan 2014 #111

By a strange twist of fate, after my time as a tanker, I was a 4.2 In Mortar Platoon Leader wercal Jan 2014 #116

One of the problem with women is they are NOT men, and most women do NOT have the training of men happyslug Jan 2014 #130

This argument brings up two things treestar Jan 2014 #71

pretty misogynist remark there. canuckledragger Jan 2014 #6

I'm sorry? philosslayer Jan 2014 #8

that is why males still have to do more Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #10

Shouldn't it be the same for both? dbackjon Jan 2014 #13

no argument here Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #19

i think there is also a question of the purpose of the standard. thesquanderer Jan 2014 #29

The job needs you to do pull-ups treestar Jan 2014 #35

Lol! n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #45

I cry bullshit also Scairp Jan 2014 #98

If I recall correctly, the Presidential Physical Fitness Award requires the same. 1000words Jan 2014 #5

I couldn't do the three in elementary school (and I'm male) thesquanderer Jan 2014 #28

I can do three pull ups. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #7

only one of the standards Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #11

So, skip it, or do a weighted average between multiple measures or something. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #16

easy? Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #20

If there's anything the miltiary loves, it's graphs, tables, curves and shit. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #22

I can't wait to see men in childbirth! MADem Jan 2014 #52

All they need to be able to do is pull a trigger. Mysterysouppe Jan 2014 #44

And carry very heavy loads ..... Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #51

they did that in our school system. too many kids failing tests so they dumbed down leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #152

Half of them could do it treestar Jan 2014 #14

Here's a link to an earlier discussion A Little Weird Jan 2014 #17

No one Drew2510 Jan 2014 #21

Funny, a female soldier was truly called upon as a necessity ... Deny and Shred Jan 2014 #24

Yes and a few women crack up Drew2510 Jan 2014 #31

Ok, but acknowledge many women HAVE put up with the strain ... Deny and Shred Jan 2014 #36

Oh yes, without question. I have had the honor Drew2510 Jan 2014 #38

Actually, also in three wars. Rozlee Jan 2014 #54

I'm impressed. But, Drew2510 Jan 2014 #58

Three wars? You have my utmost respect and gratitude! pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #134

Thank you for YOUR service. Rozlee Jan 2014 #137

The dead hang pull up has always been a problem for many females madville Jan 2014 #25

I concur sir. Meanwhile,there Drew2510 Jan 2014 #33

They don't do dead hang pull ups, the females do flex arm pull ups. 4bucksagallon Jan 2014 #39

Hummmm. Been out of touch for a while, but Drew2510 Jan 2014 #41

Check this if you want to know the difference. 4bucksagallon Jan 2014 #43

Huge difference 1000words Jan 2014 #42

Do some research, they changed the standards madville Jan 2014 #55

Did they propose the new plan in order that women would fail? alarimer Jan 2014 #26

Ah, excuse me but many women are failing now so what is your point, schh. Drew2510 Jan 2014 #46

Plato approved equal opportunity for women in the military. Mysterysouppe Jan 2014 #47

Yeah, but Plato, to my knowledge Drew2510 Jan 2014 #48

Many other folk ignoring the tens of thousands of women pressed into service by the Soviets LanternWaste Jan 2014 #61

Like I said eariler, Drew2510 Jan 2014 #63

Lantern, I just thought of what might be a better comparison Drew2510 Jan 2014 #65

On one hand I agree CFLDem Jan 2014 #49

If someone who can't do 3 pullups wants to goto war, let em be fodder NoOneMan Jan 2014 #53

Yeah but, they would probably put others at risk which is the point. n/t Drew2510 Jan 2014 #59

I know it it NoOneMan Jan 2014 #62

This one is total baloney treestar Jan 2014 #77

Does anyone know how the IDF Drew2510 Jan 2014 #66

The IDF has a coed battalion dookers Jan 2014 #80

Thanks for the info. Drew2510 Jan 2014 #92

Thats pathetic. My girlfriend isn't a health nut but she can do three Exultant Democracy Jan 2014 #67

Why can't we accept that there GENERALLY are differences in male/female physical capabilities? tableturner Jan 2014 #69

Thank you for so eloquently Drew2510 Jan 2014 #70

As time and technology go no, it matters less and less treestar Jan 2014 #76

I've never been able to do pullups. Or climb ropes. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #72

Compare to this, my family member wants to be a marine treestar Jan 2014 #73

After a quick Google search... rrneck Jan 2014 #74

IMO the bigger problem here is the load treestar Jan 2014 #75

Yeah, they're overloaded. rrneck Jan 2014 #79

what happened to a supply wagon? treestar Jan 2014 #81

Foot soldiers go where vehicles can't. rrneck Jan 2014 #82

But that load tires them out treestar Jan 2014 #88

It looks like that's just what it takes to get the job done. rrneck Jan 2014 #93

all that trouble to try to claim women can't do it treestar Jan 2014 #94

Yep, it's all a conspiracy to keep women out of the army. rrneck Jan 2014 #95

Women did fight in those days too treestar Jan 2014 #97

Joan of Arc was an exception. rrneck Jan 2014 #100

Joan never carried a sword, JOAN lead attacks happyslug Jan 2014 #146

The Army eliminated its last mules in 1956 happyslug Jan 2014 #87

Agreed, there must be some modern technological way to have a substitute treestar Jan 2014 #89

Here you go... rrneck Jan 2014 #96

Then the women who would be good sharpshooters should be at the front treestar Jan 2014 #99

That's nonsense. rrneck Jan 2014 #101

It is not; it makes perfect sense treestar Jan 2014 #109

Then why don't you figure out a way to make rrneck Jan 2014 #112

You understand the solution, right? rrneck Jan 2014 #102

Actually it is called a "Mule" but sometimes a "Person" happyslug Jan 2014 #139

Isn't this like the third or fourth posting of this story here at DU? I am beginning to wonder CTyankee Jan 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Purveyor Jan 2014 #86

No more than rrneck Jan 2014 #103

No. One is a discussion of a philosophy embraced by Progressives. CTyankee Jan 2014 #104

No. rrneck Jan 2014 #107

One is a philosophy that progressives embrace, no? CTyankee Jan 2014 #108

No. rrneck Jan 2014 #113

Thanks for straightening all of us out. Silly us, we thought it was also about CTyankee Jan 2014 #115

You're the one treating the issue like a semantic game. rrneck Jan 2014 #117

Stop it. Really. Women are part of the military now. We must all live with it. CTyankee Jan 2014 #119

Are you sure you replied to the right post? rrneck Jan 2014 #121

Not sure what your issue is. I thought we were discussing women's strengths in the military. CTyankee Jan 2014 #123

Yes, we were. rrneck Jan 2014 #124

My issue was dealing with feminism as if it si a subset of women in the military always, CTyankee Jan 2014 #125

It's far from over. rrneck Jan 2014 #126

What "combat load problem"? pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #131

If they can carry it fine by me. rrneck Jan 2014 #133

"We are the better for it." - that's it right there. Nine Jan 2014 #122

Nailed it! pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #132

I had female civillawyer Jan 2014 #84

Which Branch, Inf, Arty, Armor, Cav, JAG, etc Drew2510 Jan 2014 #138

Do you have to ask that question? happyslug Jan 2014 #144

This reminds me of the anti-ACA propaganda Nine Jan 2014 #118

I know. Hard to get this through some folks heads, even at DU (wouldja believe?). CTyankee Jan 2014 #120

Not really. rrneck Jan 2014 #127

You believe the Marines care more about "gender equality" than getting good people. Nine Jan 2014 #128

Nope. rrneck Jan 2014 #129

You sure have a lot invested in this for someone not in the armed forces. Nine Jan 2014 #135

Yes, I have a lot invested. rrneck Jan 2014 #136

... and I would also venture to guess that male Marines subjected to pain similar to childbirth Myrina Jan 2014 #151