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Major Nikon

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50. Last I heard they were talking to the FAA and the NTSB
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jan 2014

So I'm sure they are having several conversations regarding their future in aviation.

All localizers will generate a back course signal to one degree or another simply due to the nature of the antenna design. With a few exceptions the FAA has standardized to one type of antenna with the biggest difference for most being the number of dipoles in the array. Sometimes they can't be flight checked reliably for back course use due to obstructions, and sometimes there isn't enough of a reason for the FAA to maintain the back course approach which costs money. Given the proliferation of GPS approaches, back course approaches are falling out of favor. It's just as easy for them to commission a GPS approach which provides for vertical guidance and in many cases lower minimums. There's no reason not to dial it up, if for no other reason than to receive the DME, which is omnidirectional. Even though there's no requirement to do so, it could have saved their aviation careers and the airline a lot of money. Personally I like to have all my radios working for me. If nothing else it gives me something to do on the enroute phase.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this. Two of these in two months almost guarantees there will be some type of action taken by both the FAA and the insurance companies.

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Yikes! Isn't this the second time airline has landed at wrong airport KoKo Jan 2014 #1
A cargo 747 landed Suburban Warrior Jan 2014 #3
Okay, this is pilot error but not negligence or poor piloting. dballance Jan 2014 #2
A pretty serious error ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #7
8 miles is nothing to a jet Sgent Jan 2014 #16
I get it ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #38
It's damn poor piloting. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #12
Yea, that's what I thought ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #39
you think that's comparable to a wrong turn? CreekDog Jan 2014 #55
Land on the wrong runway? It's easy. dballance Jan 2014 #60
Shows how small Branson airport is! WhiteTara Jan 2014 #4
Those lucky folks who were spared spending time in Branson should take it as a sign. Hoyt Jan 2014 #5
LOL! +1 Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #61
They were lucky: jsr Jan 2014 #6
Very Lucky Suburban Warrior Jan 2014 #13
Nice areal shot davidpdx Jan 2014 #20
Soooo.... House of Roberts Jan 2014 #8
No passengers, minimum fuel, maybe take out the galley carts The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #10
Don't forget full flaps! n/t Meandyou Jan 2014 #23
Not a 737. You never take off with full flaps The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #45
Haven't checked specs on the 737-700 but- pangaia Jan 2014 #43
They'll off load passengers and fuel and fly it out. Suburban Warrior Jan 2014 #11
With little fuel and no passengers/cargo, a 737 can take off in 1400 feet. NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #29
He landed with one eye jakeXT Jan 2014 #47
No sweat. They can handle the takeoff easily using... pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #52
D'oh! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #9
The airport he landed at is far closer to Branson than Branson Airport is jmowreader Jan 2014 #14
The upside is the passengers have a shorter commute to their hotel Major Nikon Jan 2014 #22
Look at Google Maps and you'll see you're exactly right jmowreader Jan 2014 #33
I've flown into PLK Major Nikon Jan 2014 #35
Can't you just see the flight crew and attendants red faces saying .. bu-bye, bu-bye, bu-bye ..ha ha YOHABLO Jan 2014 #15
No seattledo Jan 2014 #17
I posted the first four Suburban Warrior Jan 2014 #18
nice response (high 5) tomm2thumbs Jan 2014 #34
I giggled and I appre iate your sense of humor.... TheDebbieDee Jan 2014 #59
Local commuter landed at the wrong airport here years ago. Pre-tower days. pinto Jan 2014 #19
Quite a few of them are on the same frequency Major Nikon Jan 2014 #30
We need more facts... Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2014 #21
I suspect the tower was closed Major Nikon Jan 2014 #31
There is no published back course approach so I suspect....... Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2014 #48
Last I heard they were talking to the FAA and the NTSB Major Nikon Jan 2014 #50
I believe most, if not all, 121 airline company flight operation manuals...... Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2014 #53
I've flown with a lot of professional pilots Major Nikon Jan 2014 #54
As has been learned from past incidents, it's almost never.. Capt.Rocky300 Jan 2014 #57
This seems to have happened a lot lately. n/t Meandyou Jan 2014 #24
The pilot had to brake hard... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #25
Let me guess....They departed from Colorado, right? Th1onein Jan 2014 #26
LOL! LeftofObama Jan 2014 #27
:) Th1onein Jan 2014 #62
They got lucky. Sky Masterson Jan 2014 #28
STOP IT SKY MASTERSON Skittles Jan 2014 #32
What? Sky Masterson Jan 2014 #56
They landed even closer to Branson Major Nikon Jan 2014 #36
"Paddle faster - I hear banos!" The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #46
Why not paint the airport code on the runway? greymattermom Jan 2014 #37
That's how you end up in Bronson instead of Branson. tanyev Jan 2014 #40
"...This ain't ovah!!" Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #49
Sounds like everything turned out alright. truthisfreedom Jan 2014 #41
3,700 feet of runway- James48 Jan 2014 #42
Sounds like they are going to have to truck it out of there. Historic NY Jan 2014 #44
oops! KansDem Jan 2014 #51
giggity giggity, giggity goo Kaleva Jan 2014 #58
not exactly the right airport, but in the ballpark. olddad56 Jan 2014 #63
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