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10. I'm quite certain that this and many other factors come into play. nt

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Teenage German tourist raped on Indian train [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2014 OP

My God. reflection Jan 2014 #1

my parents are from India Cane4Dems Jan 2014 #2

when we visited india a few years ago before the attention to rape in the country JI7 Jan 2014 #22

My niece married into a family from India (now in FL) and last year when she kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #53

NY City had 1000+ rapes reported in 2011. uppityperson Jan 2014 #5

What does help? get the red out Jan 2014 #14

Not at all. Simply pointing out that ""will get raped" if you travel to India is inaccurate and uppityperson Jan 2014 #18

If you report it in NYC get the red out Jan 2014 #19

"you will probably be taken seriously by the police" if you report a rape in NYC? It all depends. uppityperson Jan 2014 #21

Good luck get the red out Jan 2014 #23

Calling a country an "evil fucking place" due to the actions of some assholes there? My word. uppityperson Jan 2014 #25

No, it was MY WORD get the red out Jan 2014 #26

I am not asking you to "kiss any cultures ass" but to realize there are good people there, beautiful uppityperson Jan 2014 #27

Acid in one's face is just "not fair" get the red out Jan 2014 #30

Again, you miss the point. I am not asking you to "take this culture's side" but to not label the uppityperson Jan 2014 #32

The country is evil, on the whole, for the culture get the red out Jan 2014 #35

india is not a person, how about all the black kids being killed in the US, the THug cops who kill JI7 Jan 2014 #36

How about get the red out Jan 2014 #39

That works. eom uppityperson Jan 2014 #46

india does have misogyny and there is a major part of US culture which supports killing black kids JI7 Jan 2014 #55

"Our culture" doesn't think that's ok, but it still happens Ash_F Jan 2014 #67

Depends in part who you ask ("our culture doesn't think that's okay"). nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #72

That, IMO, is a good point. We have some deplorable acts in this RKP5637 Jan 2014 #102

how about gun culture in the US, how minority men are discriminated against , Dominique Strauss Kahn JI7 Jan 2014 #34

That was AWFUL get the red out Jan 2014 #41

Men Stabbed, Set Woman on Fire at Wildlife Preserve: Police JI7 Jan 2014 #43

That is not a rule except for some. Being able to see shades of grey is good. Speak out against uppityperson Jan 2014 #47

Are you always this ignorant? kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #54

+1 ellisonz Jan 2014 #85

What does it depend on? dorkzilla Jan 2014 #77

Do you believe every report of a rape is taken seriously? I don't. uppityperson Jan 2014 #78

Yes. I have been. And the cops took me very seriously. dorkzilla Jan 2014 #79

No, I just picked on a big city, nothing against NYC in particular, sorry. uppityperson Jan 2014 #80

No offense taken, just wondered! n/t dorkzilla Jan 2014 #81

The NYC cops told me Madam Mossfern Jan 2014 #109

So sorry... dorkzilla Jan 2014 #110

I suspect Madam Mossfern Jan 2014 #108

I hear you reflection Jan 2014 #17

Things are changing here, but still too few are reported, too few taken seriously. uppityperson Jan 2014 #24

Been mulling it over. I would imagine reflection Jan 2014 #42

i don't think it's condoned as much as the Police are Corrupt along with the politicians JI7 Jan 2014 #38

How many of those rapes happened on trains? It seems like a lot of happen on trains in India. MADem Jan 2014 #28

i read something about the states in india which don't have the huge imbalance having lower JI7 Jan 2014 #40

i just got back from india without being raped. just fyi. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #29

I am glad. Seriously. Brigid Jan 2014 #51

I think being politically correct is putting female travellers in dangerous situations. snagglepuss Jan 2014 #65

I feel so bad for her. Damnit, this happens way too frequently! cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #3

Cursory search shows Sweden at the top for rape per 100,000. India not high on list. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #4

Thank you. uppityperson Jan 2014 #6

Right, because in Sweden, rape victims are set on fire after police closeupready Jan 2014 #7

No, India has to be better than Sweden! get the red out Jan 2014 #15

Sweden is a developed country with a modernized justice system. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #8

I'm quite certain that this and many other factors come into play. nt NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #10

Like? ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #44

Like less cultural shame and fear felt by reporting victims. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #50

Except when it comes to JULIAN ASSANGE! Then, those women are "conniving" and "tools" and who knows MADem Jan 2014 #33

rapes are definitely reported far less often in India. anasv Jan 2014 #82

Your figures are, to put it politely, worthless. MADem Jan 2014 #57

Well, duh. They aren't my figures and I clearly included a caveat. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #58

The situation there is DIRE and comparing their "figures" to anything is pointless. MADem Jan 2014 #59

I don't think it's pointless. My point is that rape happens, sadly, EVERYWHERE. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #61

Let me put it this way--you ARE safer in Bangor than Bangalore. MADem Jan 2014 #62

"You ARE safer in New York than New Delhi." Ash_F Jan 2014 #66

Do examine the links I provide, taking into account that most rapes in India are NOT reported. nt MADem Jan 2014 #69

I have but what percentage do you think go unreported? Ash_F Jan 2014 #74

Have a look at the forty five degree angle on the graph. And these additional cites which are MADem Jan 2014 #75

This is still not supportive of your statement Ash_F Jan 2014 #83

Well, yes, I do--and you can choose to not read the cites I provide, and that's fine, MADem Jan 2014 #84

This source says "gender based violence" Ash_F Jan 2014 #86

Oh, come off it. They have an horrific problem in India, and you're quibbling about MADem Jan 2014 #87

OK now you are just swinging at windmills. Ash_F Jan 2014 #93

No, I'm not, and that assertion is complete hogwash. MADem Jan 2014 #94

GBV stands for all type of physical abuse, not just marital rape. Ash_F Jan 2014 #95

I'm not even arguing. I've presented you with facts and you ignore them. MADem Jan 2014 #96

Strawman Ash_F Jan 2014 #97

Just because you say so, that doesn't make it true. MADem Jan 2014 #98

If you choose to ignore the fact that women are more likely to be raped in the US, Ash_F Jan 2014 #99

I am not "choosing to ignore" it. USA reports marital rape as rape. MADem Jan 2014 #100

Marital rape is illegal in India Ash_F Jan 2014 #101

What "civil penalties?" It's NOT A "CRIME" in India. MADem Jan 2014 #103

"India Abolishes Husbands’ ‘Right’ To Rape Wife" Ash_F Jan 2014 #104

Your citation just isn't true. How's that for a problem? MADem Jan 2014 #105

It directly quotes the Independant's full article, a well known paper Ash_F Jan 2014 #106

They erred in their reporting eight years ago. I've provided you cites in refutation, yet MADem Jan 2014 #107

The article is extremely detailed, so that is one hell of an error Ash_F Jan 2014 #111

Because there isn't. nt MADem Jan 2014 #112

Amazing Ash_F Jan 2014 #113

Yep, you sure are! nt MADem Jan 2014 #114

WHAT IF 'ensuring that no one will want to visit their country' is their goal? freshwest Jan 2014 #70

Could be the goal of the rapists...but India relies heavily on the Almighty Tourist Dollar, and MADem Jan 2014 #71

Sorry, but b.s. If there was "one world definition" of rape, that might have meaning. magical thyme Jan 2014 #89

"Granted, many rapes go unreported or are measured differently from place to place." NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #91

"measured differently" is a massive understatement, as is "many rapes go unreported." magical thyme Jan 2014 #92

you couldn't pay me to go to India Skittles Jan 2014 #9

Me neither. CTyankee Jan 2014 #11

I have many reasons too Skittles Jan 2014 #12

I don't want to go to China either. But that is because of its pollution. CTyankee Jan 2014 #13

Same here get the red out Jan 2014 #16

Buy me a ticket and I'd go. So many beautiful places in India, such a different culture than here. uppityperson Jan 2014 #20

I, too, would love to go to India. athena Jan 2014 #49

agreed. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #52

I went to India a couple years ago and can't wait to back. It was amazing! Glimmer of Hope Jan 2014 #56

File this under "knockout game hype" philosslayer Jan 2014 #31

no, the problem with sexual assault is a much more real and serious problem JI7 Jan 2014 #37

Rape isn't hype. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #45

Yeah--I'm sure it was 'hype' to the victim. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #60

Not a very informed comment. To be polite. nt MADem Jan 2014 #63

Was she alone? Beacool Jan 2014 #48

You've got to assume that going to India is safer than where I live... titaniumsalute Jan 2014 #64

Good point. "Safe" is always relative and subjective. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #73

India for you. unreadierLizard Jan 2014 #68

:( shenmue Jan 2014 #76

this is big news in Europe GRACIEBIRD Jan 2014 #88

Safety tip: Stay out of India. Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #90