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170. Ranchemp, I genuinely don't understand your point regarding this supposed hypocrisy.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:35 PM

Jan 2014

Weinstein has produced many movies in which guns are used: Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, etc. etc. I have seen all these movies, and not once did I leave the theater feeling more kindly disposed towards guns. In fact, it was the opposite. So I would argue that there's not much "glorification" going on there.

I would also argue that these movie are works of fiction, and the guns in them, which are being handled by fictional people and not actually harming anyone, are actually props. So I'd have a difficult time thinking that Weinstein made his fortune from guns, because though the things you see in the movies are meant to represent real guns, they are not actually real.

I think you need to reserve your cries of "hypocrisy!" for when, say, the executives of the Remington company start decrying guns and gun culture. (Or shaving and shaving culture for that matter - is that the same company?)

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Would be nice HockeyMom Jan 2014 #1

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That's difficult. Video games make guns fun. SolutionisSolidarity Jan 2014 #18

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Good info for us non-gamers. Thanks. (n/t) klook Jan 2014 #120

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Myth #8: "Vicious, violent video games" deserve more blame than guns. billh58 Jan 2014 #51

You can have your opinion, I can have mine.... olddad56 Jan 2014 #53

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You are so correct! Shemp Howard Jan 2014 #73

Video games make video guns fun, at least. Gore1FL Jan 2014 #42

I have ZERO credibilty as a gamer... reACTIONary Jan 2014 #43

I agree! immoderate Jan 2014 #52

Yes, it would be nice, WcoastO Jan 2014 #48

That will be difficult with things like this being marketed. Kablooie Jan 2014 #54

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Only disarming them would make them feel THAT bad. n/t Loudly Jan 2014 #3

Good on him. kick and rec. riqster Jan 2014 #4

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Seriously?? RockaFowler Jan 2014 #8

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Do you think it's on Netflix? Agschmid Jan 2014 #14

Welcome to DU !!! tomm2thumbs Jan 2014 #9

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And you seriously believe billh58 Jan 2014 #16

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Why or how would it have been a better movie? I am sincerely curious. Thank you uppityperson Jan 2014 #23

Of course you billh58 Jan 2014 #26

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The premise of the gun troll's billh58 Jan 2014 #38

Schindler's List erpowers Jan 2014 #40

It was the typical screed about how 'libruls need the oven treatment.' onehandle Jan 2014 #41

I saw this movie where 20 first graders were slaughtered by the fetish of the dickless. onehandle Jan 2014 #17

thank you onehandle. elehhhhna Jan 2014 #22

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OneHandle, you beat me to it. It was the first thing on my mind when I read that post. Ecumenist Jan 2014 #25

Well Helllloooooo! CreekDog Jan 2014 #20

Aw, his billh58 Jan 2014 #27

Considering Hollywood is somewhat responsible for making Cleita Jan 2014 #6

Very good point Cleita Tumbulu Jan 2014 #57

I'm not holding my breath. Archae Jan 2014 #12

A guys got to work right? Egnever Jan 2014 #44

Pull what off? Archae Jan 2014 #50

I don't think Meryl Streep "does" movies for the Lifetime Channel. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #184

It's not the channel, it's the style. Archae Jan 2014 #186

I didn't know Meryl Streep was in JFK...who did she play? truebluegreen Jan 2014 #187

Why do you keep bringing in Merly Streep? Archae Jan 2014 #190

I was talking about Meryl Streep. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #194

The NRA is Killer Mad Dog Gone Cha Jan 2014 #13

The same thing was said about "Bowling for Columbine" NickB79 Jan 2014 #19

and Sicko and Capitalism:A love Story Doctor_J Jan 2014 #196

Sounds good but Harvey Weinstein and Meryl Streep will doc03 Jan 2014 #28

"Unlike the so called documentaries Michael Moore makes." Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #56

... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #123

It's Michael, not Micheal, and what are you talking about? bitchkitty Jan 2014 #80

His documentaries are a series of half truths and outright exaggerations. He also uses the doc03 Jan 2014 #108

Whoa. Goodbye forever. nt valerief Jan 2014 #115

You can't give ANY examples, evidently. bitchkitty Jan 2014 #125

i will give you an example strikeforce Jan 2014 #138

A lot of RWers don't like Michael Moore. nt rdharma Jan 2014 #151

So what is your subjective take on Breitbart? chknltl Jan 2014 #160

Come out of the fog of the MSM narrative on Moore LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #182

"So-Called Documentaries"??? elzenmahn Jan 2014 #131

Godspeed Mr. Weinstein: may your project result in an veritable plethora of NRA members indepat Jan 2014 #29

Be careful of what you wish for... elzenmahn Jan 2014 #132

It's "expatriate" which is not the same thing at all. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #185

Thanks for the education of someone who's never been outside USA except for a few incursions across indepat Jan 2014 #188

No problem. truebluegreen Jan 2014 #189

Time to buy stock in Ruger and Smith and Wesson. ... spin Jan 2014 #32

Makes me ashamed to be an American. Seriously, this has been almost mountain grammy Jan 2014 #35

I looked at the situation realistically and did not run out and buy new firearms. ... spin Jan 2014 #37

I switched over to pellet guns NickB79 Jan 2014 #63

I'm with you. Titonwan Jan 2014 #71

I don't think Starlings are all that tasty. Still I might be wrong. ... spin Jan 2014 #109

"and a little beer." Titonwan Jan 2014 #121

Enough beer and almost everything tastes good. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #122

Yep. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #130

I also practice with a quality pellet pistol. ... spin Jan 2014 #104

+100 billh58 Jan 2014 #39

I know I am! NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #45

You might be right because gun fanciers are a callous bunch. Even some of the Gungeoneers bragged Hoyt Jan 2014 #114

What most people who wish to ban the AR-15 don't realize is why it is so popular. ... spin Jan 2014 #119

sweet tiny elvis Jan 2014 #191

There are 80,000,000 firearm owners in our nation. ... spin Jan 2014 #203

banning your toys is a solution tiny elvis Jan 2014 #208

You have every right to try to ban my 'toys". ... spin Jan 2014 #209

Interesting. I find the .357 to be a handful... Deep13 Jan 2014 #206

Years ago I was having a difficult time shooting a good score on the target range ... spin Jan 2014 #207

idiotic... Deep13 Jan 2014 #202

I wish you could see gun-counter panic raven mad Jan 2014 #124

True. Many shooters reload their own ammo. It usually is less expensive that buying factory ... spin Jan 2014 #126

Just remember to save your brass! Pardon the following rant; I'm not mad at anybody! raven mad Jan 2014 #127

I Doubt It erpowers Jan 2014 #33

Agree with you. reflection Jan 2014 #66

K&R ReRe Jan 2014 #46

The gun-humper universe has very little overlap with the world of Meryl Streep fans nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #47

That was my first thought as well nxylas Jan 2014 #173

Intriguing. CBHagman Jan 2014 #49

Harvey Weinstein is a hypocrite, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #55

The number of movies he has made his fortune on that feature gun violence shedevil69taz Jan 2014 #58

And that exactly why I consider him a hypocrite. eom Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #59

you are repeating right wing talking points. alp227 Jan 2014 #60

Is Pres. Obama repeating RW talking points as well? NickB79 Jan 2014 #62

On that note JackInGreen Jan 2014 #65

Exactly. Titonwan Jan 2014 #74

But he has a point... bobclark86 Jan 2014 #94

Do you not think it's a little hypocritical to MAKE action films and claim no responsibility hughee99 Jan 2014 #68

In whose mind is the violence glorified? alp227 Jan 2014 #105

Violence is glorified in the viewers mind, as it was intended to be by the director. hughee99 Jan 2014 #107

Well, again, entertainment can't be all sunshine and flowers. alp227 Jan 2014 #110

I agree completely, I just think someone who produces art hughee99 Jan 2014 #111

Would you be any happier if Woody Allen was making the movie? (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #113

I don't have a problem with Weinstein making the movie, hughee99 Jan 2014 #116

Aww... Are gun trolls wetting their depends at the prospects of a widdle movie? onehandle Jan 2014 #70

Do you deny that he's made millions from those movies? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #72

most intelligent people are able to discern between art and reality frylock Jan 2014 #78

DO YOU DENY THAT HE MADE MILLIONS FROM THESE MOVIES? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #81

where did i deny that? frylock Jan 2014 #84

Why is it RW boilerplate if it's the truth? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #85

i'm sorry that you're unable to differentiate between fiction and reality. frylock Jan 2014 #91

The reality is that his fiction Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #95

Exactly, there are FICTIONAL stories and REALITY. One has no real impact on the other hughee99 Jan 2014 #100

There are precise and relevant differences in the the observation... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #101

I'm astounded that you don't find this as rank hypocrisy. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #87

i wouldn't go and see it. frylock Jan 2014 #90

Here's the audio of the interview bigworld Jan 2014 #61

I just finished listening to this interview.. didn't hear any mention of this subject... 2banon Jan 2014 #106

Gun freepers not liking this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #64

He's produced Michael Moore movies... Titonwan Jan 2014 #67

Ted Nugent: Weinstein is a "subhuman punk" Paladin Jan 2014 #75

Yes, Teddy is a sub human that no reasonable person should listen to, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #134

Is that all you've got? (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #136

"Is that all you've got?" Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #137

Offer up some refutations of what I said in post #75, then maybe we'll talk. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #139

I'm not refuting that he and she are probably receiving threats, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #140

Like I said up-thread: you wouldn't be any happier if Woody Allen was making this movie. Paladin Jan 2014 #141

This conversation is over because you can't refute what I've said. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #142

He's making the movie. Too bad you don't like it. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #143

My BESTEST BUDDY! Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #145

Why can't I be right in the middle? hack89 Jan 2014 #167

You've never been, and never will be, "right in the middle" on the guns issue. Paladin Jan 2014 #179

Please stop lying hack89 Jan 2014 #180

. NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #183

"I WAS IN THE POOL!" louis-t Jan 2014 #76

wingers are already shitting their pants and trying to get ahead of this.. frylock Jan 2014 #79

A pedophile draft-dodging chickenhawk speaks for them all... onehandle Jan 2014 #82

Law-abiding gun owner...NOT. alp227 Jan 2014 #147

Beats the hell out of me!!! Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #149

Why would he go to a federal prison? rdharma Jan 2014 #152

Federal child abuse charges, also, threatening a U.S. President. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #153

Under certain specified conditions only. rdharma Jan 2014 #154

They may be fantasies, but, they're my fantasies. eom. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #156

Don't get me wrong...... I believe the Nuge belongs in prison. rdharma Jan 2014 #158

Believe me, I'm with you that the Nuge belongs in the lock-up, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #162

YAAY!!!! I'll go see it! tblue Jan 2014 #83

He just hires bodyguards Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #86

I'm sure he supports everyones right to hire armed bodyguards... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #88

'Rich people don't have a right to speak, because they can afford security' onehandle Jan 2014 #89

Can't refute the poster Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #96

He can't Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #166

i suppose you can thank loco right-wing shitbags for him having to beef up security frylock Jan 2014 #93

Until this gun fetish is abolished Titonwan Jan 2014 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Jan 2014 #148

Security guards are trained to handle guns? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #150

I have never been more terrified at a shooting range sarisataka Jan 2014 #157

Kick again for the gun republicans. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #102

Good morning. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #103

Maybe if they went to prison they would wish that. Ash_F Jan 2014 #112

Guns and genitalia hack89 Jan 2014 #117

Says pot to kettle. Weinstein has made some godevil10 Jan 2014 #118

He has also made some movies that make guns look dangerous, DeltaLitProf Jan 2014 #175

Your thread has really ticked off the gun huggers! rdharma Jan 2014 #129

Yes and no hack89 Jan 2014 #133

His thread? No. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #135

NRA is basically a repulican organization. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #144

Because we've grown so close over the last few days and I consider you Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #146

Looks like you agree with the conservatives: Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #155

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #159

How was that a smear? You are saying the same things the conservatives Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #164

Told you before, I don't do alerts, not worth the time. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #165

So now he's changed his mind. Better than going through life a gun lover/promoter. Hoyt Jan 2014 #161

LOL. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #163

Ranchemp, I genuinely don't understand your point regarding this supposed hypocrisy. IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2014 #170

He's a hypocrite because he's made millions Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #171

I still don't see the connection. IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2014 #176

Well, then, I can't help you. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #177

If you can't see the fact that there's no actual hypocrisy, then I can't help you, either. IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2014 #181

Slip up, meant to say he believes that guns don't belong in this country. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #193

They aren't alive BainsBane Jan 2014 #168

And just how many Hollywood movies have ever influenced the national discourse hack89 Jan 2014 #169

They're not really alive SansACause Jan 2014 #172

Ok, but how safe will it be to see this 4_TN_TITANS Jan 2014 #174

Well, a lot of us already wish the NRA wasn't alive. nt valerief Jan 2014 #192

If you're lucky enough to live near one of the 4 theaters that will screen this, Doctor_J Jan 2014 #195

It's going to be a big theatrical release with big stars, not a documentary. onehandle Jan 2014 #197

So was Matewan. So was Runaway Jury. Doctor_J Jan 2014 #198

So was Green Zone, and if I remember correctly, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #199

And Salvador and Romero and Burn Doctor_J Jan 2014 #200

If he goes after just the NRA, then, more power to him, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #201

If he is successful in destroying the NRA, it will just be replaced by the much more conservative .. spin Jan 2014 #204

True. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #205