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4. "Holocaust pope" - really?!1 As a lapsed Catholic, I have him as the template of what
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jan 2014

a pope looked like until I was 11 yrs old. Whatever lingering nostalgia I have left is wrapped in that image and I carry a key fob of the "Liberal" John XXIII, these two retaining whatever reverence is possible for clay-feet humans. There are limits to what somebody can do under besieged conditions in the middle of the maelstrom, besides that the pre-XXIII church dogma was even more ilLiberal than it is now and we complain about how it is now. There are stories that he saved refugees. Unless he was supposed to put an end to the madness single-handedly, it is nasty to label him "the Holocaust pope." Perhaps the current officeholder's positive p.r. status will serve to lay that label to rest.

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I hope he lives a long time JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #1
I agree with your hope, but thought the opposite was more likely yurbud Jan 2014 #26
there`s a lot of blood in the 2000yrs of archives madrchsod Jan 2014 #2
Long time coming. AngryOldDem Jan 2014 #3
Francis is the first Jesuit Pope ever. n/t Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #6
"Holocaust pope" - really?!1 As a lapsed Catholic, I have him as the template of what UTUSN Jan 2014 #4
holocaust pope? really? yes, really: niyad Jan 2014 #7
Head, meet sand. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #12
Just a note, you're addressing a Lib, secular humanist, lapsed Cath here. n/t UTUSN Jan 2014 #18
So are you. ;-) WinkyDink Jan 2014 #24
Yet with a difference of tone. n/t UTUSN Jan 2014 #25
Hasn't been a Pope this smart and ethical in my lifetime Demeter Jan 2014 #5
Amazing change of tone in just a first years of a Pope. Bennidict did defrock 400 priests for ... marble falls Jan 2014 #8
"Benedict." As in, benediction. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #13
Or, "Benedict," as in… johnfunk Jan 2014 #17
Heh. Never cared for the German myself. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #20
You made me laugh........ Beacool Jan 2014 #23
Another well-crafted PR moment skepticscott Jan 2014 #9
The Vatican is one of the oldest political entities bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #10
Hitler: "I am, as before, a Catholic and will always remain so." Rozlee Jan 2014 #11
He could do this without hurting the individuals mentioned in these files. Most are dead. jwirr Jan 2014 #14
If you can't answer the question with a simple "Yes" Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #15
I think this is more speculation than fact - it's something hedgehog Jan 2014 #16
Oddly the article does not actually quote Francis saying he is going to do this nor does it Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #19
Sainthood?!! Scairp Jan 2014 #21
Oh no, now he's got Jewish cooties. Beacool Jan 2014 #22
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