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In reply to the discussion: Judge orders forfeiture of Texas polygamist ranch [View all]delrem
(9,688 posts)Nice.
Fact is that I'm being pilloried in this thread with all kinds of innuendo both subtle and unsubtle directed against me by several people including you. I *do* have some visceral reactions - tho' I'm trying to keep my head, even tho' one lovely customer suggested that the generality of my questions somehow shows that I "came out of the woodwork" to defend the perps at the YFZ ranch, this being the common theme.
Yes, Major Nikon, what I had in mind when posing my questions was to engage in a discussion concerned not just primarily with how best to do the victims justice, but *solely* concerned with how best to do the victims justice.
Regarding your contribution, abstracted from your ad hominem jabs at me, I think there's more to it than you state. If someone were to explain how the victims, all of whom are residents of the XFZ ranch, retain possession of their property through a transfer of property rights following the state seizure, I'd be happy. But nobody has explained that. Nobody has explained how this multitude of victims aren't going to be put on the street with zero assets, even though it's clear that they aren't equipped to deal with that kind of development.
Someone suggested that these residents were *all* guilty, because *all* were guilty of "welfare fraud", but nobody has told me how these victims won't be even more dependent on "welfare" after being given the heave ho, even though both Federal and State institutions are in full scale attack on everything related to such "entitlements" up to and including food stamps. Yet I'm supposed to have an almost religious-like belief that these same Fed and State institutions are benevolent to the poor and those who fall through the ever widening cracks. Nobody has explained how the Federal and State gov'ts, after they seize the ranch property, will deal with the following situation fairly so the victims on the ranch don't just get booted by some bank operating by rote in response to state institutions operating by rote - and where the most quality time the victims get in response is some kind of passing "tut tut, too bad" from a decadent middle class that's already gone onto other things to tut tut about.
Those are some of the factors I was thinking about when I posed my questions.
Now I'm junking these threads - so go to it all of you, continue accusing me of all kinds of nauseous shit. I don't care.