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14. Well, I have to disagree about the Obamacare intro, because that was

Thu Jan 23, 2014, 05:10 PM

Jan 2014

his big initiative and one thing he could control fairly well--his deputies and advisors let him down on that one, and none have been fired, surprisingly. I would have thought Sebelius would be gone by now. It's not a tragedy, just a setback--but one he didn't need. I wasn't terribly convinced of his foreign policy direction up until this year (some interventions and a surge that proved to be not-so-great), but he seems to be on track now. Repubs have repeatedly sabotaged him and wrestled him to the mat, but history will pretty much only remember what he did and didn't do--fairly or not. Overall, he's done a pretty damn good job with what he's had to work with, he's still the same level-headed, sane, decent guy I supported in 2007. But I do believe he's been less lucky in world events and economic realities than, say, Clinton.

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Poll: At Obama's 5-yr point, few see a turnaround [View all] alp227 Jan 2014 OP

What do we do when both parties are to the right of America? Ash_F Jan 2014 #1

Neither party. The owners of those "two" parties won't allow it. villager Jan 2014 #2

President Obama said it himself yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #3

And he plans to do just that. Even Paul Krugman, who hasn't always been an Obama fan, is Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #10

Or, what do we do when Americans are so grossly misinformed that they blame the president Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #9

The so-called "Democrats" don't even put up the semblance of a fight anymore. It's just roll over & blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #17

All Democrats? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #18

ok... sendero Jan 2014 #27

It's called Democraticunderground, Not center-right business establishment underground. Ash_F Jan 2014 #25

Show me the Democratic Party platform. Then show me exactly where there are center right Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #28

I didn't stay home. Ash_F Jan 2014 #30

I didn't say YOU stayed home. I didn't YOU said 95%. I pointed to someone who responded to Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #31

"We can't push them further to the left" Ash_F Jan 2014 #33

Look eighty percent of what any President accomplishes is done through truedelphi Jan 2014 #26

the two parties are free to do what they like on gays, god, and anything else that doesn't yurbud Jan 2014 #29

Honestly, if we want to know who is to blame I look at the GOP and especially the GOP House LynneSin Jan 2014 #4

Damned straight..... President does not equal King groundloop Jan 2014 #8

From Birther to Benghazi grilled onions Jan 2014 #11

It's not just on the political right. I wish it were. He was received hell from the political left Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #13

if obama were a republican, they'd be saying that the dow has more than doubled unblock Jan 2014 #5

Usually the stock market climbs when a Democrat is President but doesn't do as well when ... spin Jan 2014 #21

yes, that's been true for a long time and has only gotten more so since clinton. unblock Jan 2014 #22

Almost all political conflict... between the Sane Billionaires and the Insane Billionaires. immoderate Jan 2014 #6

The problem for him is, it's mostly chickens from the last decade, and more, coming TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #7

The Obamacare rollout was not "brought on himself". It was sabotaged from the very beginning. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #12

Well, I have to disagree about the Obamacare intro, because that was TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #14

She wasn't fired because I believe that they all knew how they were being set up from the beginning. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #15

I hear what you're saying about low-quality/lowest-bidder contractors, TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #19

I hear you, but I still think he did right by keeping the team. They cleaned up the mess and now Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #20

Honestly, in hindsight, the healthcare.gov problems are pretty irrelelvant and not that big of deal. phleshdef Jan 2014 #23

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make in my posts. Read my responses below. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #24

The 1% is doing quite well, thank you very much. Everyone else, well ... blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #16

President Obama has been a very good CEO-like decision maker. 1000words Jan 2014 #32