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In reply to the discussion: Poll: At Obama's 5-yr point, few see a turnaround [View all]Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)policy priorities.
Yes, there are some Democrats pushing for the TPP, which I am vehemently opposed to. Including our president who is going out of his way to support it, and I'm not sure why. But MOST--yes, MOST--Democrats are fighting back against it. Indeed, there are many Republicans always fighting against it simply because it's Obama, but still. Now the TPP probably will fail because of it.
So you and some other person said it's 95%? Why are you here?
Yes, there are some Blue Dog and Corporate/DLC Democrats who are going against what most Americans want. Sure, there are. But the largest caucus in the Democratic Party is the Progressive Caucus. If it can't fight back against the corporatists in the party, then who's fault is that?
No one's throwing away elections. In 2010, it was Independents (who really are pseudo-Republicans) that stayed home. Whiny liberals who didn't get 100% pure liberal policies WHEN they wanted it stomped their feet, took their ball and went home and didn't vote. Now we have all these states dominated by Republicans and still Blue Dog and Corporatist Democrats in the House and Senate. And you wonder why we still don't have more progressive policy outcomes? Really? Your logic makes no sense. I've been up and down this road on this issue:
We elect Democrats. Democratic Party has a huge tent which allows all ideological persuasions to participate.
When we don't get 100% of what we want when we want it, we get angry and blame Democrats INSTEAD OF BLAMING THE REPUBLICANS AND THOSE BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS WHO ARE AT FAULT. Rather than fight to defeat the Republicans and Blue Dogs in our districts, we continue to blame the Democratic Party--as a whole--and stay home and don't vote, thus allowing MORE Republicans to take control over local, state, the courts, school districts, and federal government. These are facts! Not hyperbole.
Meanwhile, the Republicans get their people out to the polls and get into power.
Then, we ILLOGICALLY wonder why we still don't have progressive policy outcomes!!
What? Does that make any fucking sense at all? It's simple: You stay home mad because you didn't get your way when you wanted it. Republicans get back in. You wonder why the Democrats who are left can't get anything done. DUH!! What did you expect? Then you get mad again and threaten to stay home the following election rather than work to get MORE progressive Democrats elected and get rid of these Blue Dog, Corporatists Democrats!
I don't get the logic. I never will.