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happyslug

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19. Remember we are talking of Texas, they is NO local Government outside of Cities
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:35 PM
Mar 2012

In the North and most of the Rest of the Country (outside the South) even in rural areas we have local rural governments. In my home State of Pennsylvania, when founded by William Penn, was founded into the Provence (now state) of Pennsylvania, which was divided into counties and further divided into townships. If the Local Township form of Government was inadequate local people could form Cities and Boroughs out of those Townships (and those Cities and Boroughs could annex Townships into themselves, through that was a lot easier in the 1800s then today). Thus no matter where you go, they is some sort of local government that you can go to an complain and they can help you to go to the proper authorities.

Unlike Pennsylvania and most of the rest of the US, Texas follows the Southern Tradition of have NO government below the County Level UNLESS it is formed by the Locals (Cities or Boroughs, maybe "Towns" but in rural areas no local government, everything is done at the County Level or not at all). Now, both North and South have SCHOOL DISTRICTS, but in most cases these are independent of whatever other local government that exists. You can have unincorporated "Towns" in either system, but these have NO legal significance, but often a place where businesses tend to set themselves up to handle business from other locals as oppose to a Governmental body.

One of the disadvantage of the Northern/Pennsylvanian system is that you always have a local elected official to deal with. He or she may have no real power, but is an elected official that often coordinates with neighboring local governments, Schools, the County and the State. Thus often you have to see what he says you can or can not do.

On the other hand, in the South, unless you are in an Incorporated City or similar local government, you have the advantage of NOT having to deal with anyone, including having to deal with local Fire and police men which do not exist for they is no local government for them to work for. Thus they is no one to turn to EXCEPT at the County or State level.

Yes, I am being a bit sarcastic about the "interference" of local officials. In many ways such local government do force people to do things they would not otherwise do, like install sewage, or follow some electrical code. On the other hand some of these requirements makes for a overall nicer place to live (i.e. no open sewers and you do not have a house burning down every day). The real disadvantage is things like this School Bus as a home can remain for decades for there is no local government to complaint about it. Thus most of these neighbors may NOT know who to turn these children into, there have NO local Government or police to call and the County Government can be 10-20 miles away.

I use to do Children and Youth Work in Pennsylvania, and many of the Complaints of Neglect were first made to the local police who forwarded them to Children and Youth. Thus if there was no local police, there would be no one LOCALLY one can complain to and if no complaint is made, the situation stays as it is for no one will look into the situation until a complaint is made. In areas without local police, the local Volunteer Fire Department hears some of these complaints as do the Township supervisors who then forward them to Children And Youth.

Sorry, this is one of the problem with living in an Area without local government, something William Penn disliked. Rural Southern tend to like such lack of local Government do to the ability to avoid any local controls, for they will be none. The downside is the lack of any local controls, including someone in local government you can complain to and that person kick the problem to the agency that can do something about it.

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Seems to me the neighbors knew of these children. Why in bill blue blazes didn't snappyturtle Mar 2012 #1
The neighbors might not have known these kids were on their own. Lasher Mar 2012 #2
yes - why didn't they try to contact the parents Skittles Mar 2012 #4
Splendora, TX arely staircase Mar 2012 #43
same reason why cars fled an accident scene I went to recently - "did not want to get involved" wordpix Mar 2012 #56
Hope they find a good abelenkpe Mar 2012 #3
My first thought as well. PotatoChip Mar 2012 #7
I'm with everyone else - if you see children looking dirty and unkempt and no shoes even in winter Smilo Mar 2012 #5
Remember we are talking of Texas, they is NO local Government outside of Cities happyslug Mar 2012 #19
Thank you. Delphinus Mar 2012 #53
No, you didn't. Speaker Mar 2012 #54
I did NOT say that, I pointed out no LOCAL Government happyslug Mar 2012 #58
There is a child abuse hot line in all 50 states. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #64
So what? How do you find out about it if you do NOT know about it. happyslug Mar 2012 #66
Google it proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #67
How can a person who has no Computer "google it"???? happyslug Mar 2012 #70
that will come a quite a surprise to my county commissioners' court, county judge, county sheriff, arely staircase Mar 2012 #60
A FEDERAL Government Employee happyslug Mar 2012 #61
well, i would consider the county gov. to be local, but even within arely staircase Mar 2012 #62
Not just Texas. That's the case in most of the west. Xithras Mar 2012 #68
11 and FIVE? xxqqqzme Mar 2012 #6
So there was no adult caring for them? That's what it sounds like. Quantess Mar 2012 #8
There was a Adult, but she was working 12 hour shifts happyslug Mar 2012 #10
Oh, now I see it. Quantess Mar 2012 #13
The Children were with an ADULT happyslug Mar 2012 #9
What are you talking about? LisaL Mar 2012 #20
Under the law, that is sufficient happyslug Mar 2012 #25
Under what law its sufficient? LisaL Mar 2012 #26
You should check your state's Welfare Regulations happyslug Mar 2012 #59
Even though some can't comprehend what you are saying, it is great that you are DeschutesRiver Mar 2012 #72
Thank you for taking the time to say this Horse with no Name Mar 2012 #37
I remember the CHIP program and then Governor Bush of Texas happyslug Mar 2012 #39
the kids are experiencing gross neglect, thats grounds for foster care firehorse Mar 2012 #24
Have you done Children and Youth work? I have, and nothing in the article shows gross neglect. happyslug Mar 2012 #47
did you look at the bus? filthy, no water, lacking food, trash everywhere... firehorse Mar 2012 #48
Maybe we should just criminalize poverty JAbuchan08 Mar 2012 #49
This wasn't a personal opinon of Happyslug - it was the law's position. nt DeschutesRiver Mar 2012 #71
Sad, but True. Throckmorton Mar 2012 #52
Eyes Open flamingdem Mar 2012 #11
This is how many children live in the U.S.A. hunter Mar 2012 #14
You are so correct! southerncrone Mar 2012 #29
I do not think you've seen much of the third world flamingdem Mar 2012 #33
We're not "third world" hunter Mar 2012 #35
What's crippling the US is privately-funded elections. Selatius Mar 2012 #51
Amen brotha. eom xtraxritical Mar 2012 #38
+10000 wordpix Mar 2012 #57
So did these children fall through the cracks in the social net? bayareaboy Mar 2012 #12
But Mitt Romney's not concerned about that. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #17
Here's a video link: Quantess Mar 2012 #15
Great Aunt? Where are the kids parents, aunts, and uncles? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #16
Parents are apparently in prison. LisaL Mar 2012 #18
Both of them? Do you have a link to the info? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #21
The info is in the OP. LisaL Mar 2012 #22
Their parents are believed to be in prison for embezzling money from Hurricane Ike victims in 2008. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #23
If the parents are in prison, didn't the state assign a guardian for the kids southerncrone Mar 2012 #30
Excellent question. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #32
I imagine the parents didn't want children to go to foster care so they probably LisaL Mar 2012 #42
Children in our society today are disposable. southerncrone Mar 2012 #27
I suspect that there never were any kids. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #28
Who is making things up? southerncrone Mar 2012 #31
Or, as we call it in Texas........ DFW Mar 2012 #34
US Postal Workers... Galraedia Mar 2012 #36
Wow, this sounds like a real-life version of "The Boxcar Children" Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #40
I thought the same thing, I loved those books when I was a kid in ther 90s. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #44
First thing I thought of, but without the older sibblings. joshcryer Mar 2012 #50
those poor children blondie58 Mar 2012 #41
!!!!!!!!!!!! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #45
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) asfghjkyu Mar 2012 #46
Talk about a failed system we have one madokie Mar 2012 #55
we are a third world country. CTyankee Mar 2012 #63
I read this a couple of days ago, and realized that the parents were most likely in prison... midnight Mar 2012 #65
They are in prison and it has been known from the beginning. LisaL Mar 2012 #69
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