McCaskill: Obamacare Is Like Ryancare For Non-Seniors

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17. No one is asking for that

"Progressives wanted health CARE changes, what we got was health INSURANCE changes"

This to me is almost semantic gamesmanship. Yes I understand the distinction that is being made.

However given the historical point we are at now, the insurance industry is not going to be destroyed or nationalized in the near term.

Stop with the strawmen.

We aren't talking about "destroying the insurance industry". However, we were talking about a public OPTION, remember? Instead we got mandates, something Obama argued against, and the GOP proposed. Remember when we were outraged that we couldn't negotiate drug prices as part of Part D? See what got left in? Progressives want health CARE to be a right, instead we got buying insurance as an OBLIGATION. We also got it clearly spelled out exactly who WASN'T going to get help. Oh, and by the way, the White House itself acknowledges that health CARE costs will continue to rise by 7% per year, even as insurance profits will be limited to a maximum of 20%. I realize that's just a semantic difference to you, but it is a huge problem for individuals that now are legally obligated to BOTH buy insurance and also PAY for much of their health care.

If we don't get control of the cost of CARE, the cost controls on insurance won't mean diddly squat. But I know, semantics.