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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: 3 killed at Maryland mall [View all]OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)135. I will.
To quote you:
Then you're just one more person I have to fight in order to change said unfair system.
To quote what I had said in the prior post (112):
I as an individual person am not allowing any of this to keep happening.
I am fighting it everyday. All day long.
I am fighting it everyday. All day long.
So I said I am fighting the system and you said you are fighting me. Duh!
Also, you did not specify which laws you were advocating breaking. It pretty much seemed like all of them so it was totally appropriate for "my ass" to speculate on which ones you were referring to. To quote you:
Why should "the little people" obey the law?
The people with power break the laws all the time. Torture is the first example to come to mind, followed by lying to Congress to start the Iraq war. Then there's the financial industry which lied to lots of people, mostly during the housing boom. I work in the tech industry in SI valley, and I used to work for one of the companies that conspired to keep wages low, and although I applaud the people who are bringing this to light, I wonder whether they'll have trouble getting jobs later, and I wonder whether the punishment for this conspiracy will just be a slap on the wrist, if even that.
Then there's the spying by the NSA. Even here I see people use the justification that it's useful. Gah!
Given all this, why should people care about the laws? Oh gee whiz, they're not supposed to speed? They're not supposed to bring a gun here?
The people with power break the laws all the time. Torture is the first example to come to mind, followed by lying to Congress to start the Iraq war. Then there's the financial industry which lied to lots of people, mostly during the housing boom. I work in the tech industry in SI valley, and I used to work for one of the companies that conspired to keep wages low, and although I applaud the people who are bringing this to light, I wonder whether they'll have trouble getting jobs later, and I wonder whether the punishment for this conspiracy will just be a slap on the wrist, if even that.
Then there's the spying by the NSA. Even here I see people use the justification that it's useful. Gah!
Given all this, why should people care about the laws? Oh gee whiz, they're not supposed to speed? They're not supposed to bring a gun here?
So basically, if you weren't advocating breaking all the laws, which ones were you advocating breaking? Just those on torture and lying to Congress and spying and conspiracy and fraud? And frankly above (in the post I am currently responding to), you even say "Arguably people should rob banks." Robbery is worse than theft (robbery is considered a crime of violence; theft is not). And yet you're all up in arms because I listed that as a law you were appearing to advocate breaking? I'm not falling for your outrage.
Also, just to be clear, I never argued that "one should limit themselves only to legal means in order to fight the system." My point is and was that your comment that "Why should "the little people" obey the law?" at all was asinine. Randomly breaking the law doesn't make the system better. It makes life worse for everyone. And I stand by my judgment that saying "the little people shouldn't obey the law" is advocating a morally loathsome position.
Now, if people want to occupy a certain space or get arrested for an unpermitted protest or being part of a wildcat strike or secondary boycott, then they should do so, by all means. But these are not the acts of people who ask themselves "why should the little people obey the law." They are deliberate choices to protest and fight the system. One does not equal the other.
Only in this most recent post do you even pretend that your first post had any relation to fighting the system or engaging in any kind of organized, thoughtful, collective action.
In any case, enjoy breaking whichever random laws you choose to break. And as you do so, just remember that you will be modeling disrespect for the rule of law you now seem to care about. I'll keep doing what I am doing as I would rather work to change unjust laws than take steps to make society even more lawless. I don't enjoy living in a lawless world.
It was extremely unpleasant having this interaction with you. Bye!
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Why so many shootings - over 20 shot in Baltimore City already now Columbia
Rosa Luxemburg
Jan 2014
#24
I totally agree…the thrill isn't just in killing, it is in hopes of getting their way.
Tikki
Jan 2014
#19
I as an individual person am not allowing any of this to keep happening.
OrwellwasRight
Jan 2014
#112
I'm starting to wonder if this isn't copy cat actions based on media attention.
NutmegYankee
Jan 2014
#3
That's "aliens are in charge of the government" crazy you're peddling there
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2014
#94
Damn, this is getting to be a daily event. Yet another WTF. I often wonder if this
RKP5637
Jan 2014
#18
In order to guarantee a well-regulated militia and countless homicidal maniacs?
Divernan
Jan 2014
#25
This is true, some states may have some common sense regulation but no state is very restrictive
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#37
It is true that VA and WV have more lenient laws but it is easy to legally get guns in all 50 states
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#124
While we can talk about everything, we can not pretend that all factors are equal
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#42
The strict gun law in Maryland means nothing when you have surrounding states that
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#38
Cue Gundamenralists saying it wasn't the gun in 5. . .4. . .3. . .2. . .1. . .
Nanjing to Seoul
Jan 2014
#57
Never said I did. I stick by my original statement. It's an oddity, not a regular thing.
ScreamingMeemie
Jan 2014
#107
You keep saying you're going to end the conversation, then you keep responding.
OrwellwasRight
Jan 2014
#111
We have a WalMart smack dab in the middle of the local mall.(suburban Pittsburgh)
Divernan
Jan 2014
#119
Too close to home. Husband called at 11:50am to tell me he was fine (at work at mall complex)
Neurotica
Jan 2014
#71
Instead of fire drills, employers/schools can have effing-crazy-gun-nut drills.
Divernan
Jan 2014
#118