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14. Or Lau.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jan 2014

Or any other lawsuit that alleges that a Constitutional right to a free and appropriate public education is being denied.

In this case it's all self-defense. This Welch guy may be an entrepreneur, but few die-hard (R) are on the board of the NRDC. Most groups take funding from where they can get it.

What makes him right-wing is his assertion that you should fire underperforming teachers instead of investing in them. Period.

Both sides share the opinion that it's all the teachers' responsibility. Unions insult teachers fairly often, but how varies from day to day: "Give us better conditions, pay, benefits, and we'll do a better job and attract better teachers to the field." Meaning that either teachers are holding back until they get better pay or benefits or that really, the teachers we have are inferior.

"'Conditions" is a separate matter.


Significantly, both groups, for various reasons, miss that non-school factors account for over half of a student's learning and academic success. And that in schools, the teacher himself/herself accounts for about half of the schools' contribution. In other words, teacher = 25%, give or take a couple of %.

Those crappy teachers in one school become good teachers in another school.

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Getting rid of tenure is a mistake bluestateguy Jan 2014 #1
Totally true. The students either have a beef, don't understand the consequences or glinda Jan 2014 #2
The Students are not suing, rich conservatives are once again duping people PuppyBismark Jan 2014 #3
that's what i thought sounds like another coordinated alec attack leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #4
I looked up the attorney. He was hired and mentored by Ted Olson, one of the founding members okaawhatever Jan 2014 #20
How disgusting. Do you have proof that these students are ignorant? Or do msanthrope Jan 2014 #10
Tenure is an important property right, which falls to the civil rights of students. i msanthrope Jan 2014 #11
The Right Wing machine is on the move... lutefisk Jan 2014 #5
UNION BUSTING warrant46 Jan 2014 #24
Laws have "handcuffed" Administrators? SoapBox Jan 2014 #6
Obviously not history students. Tenure protects teachers & students on point Jan 2014 #7
Actually, what distinguishes these students from the Plaintiffs in 'Brown'? msanthrope Jan 2014 #9
Brown's cause was just, the cause here is frivilous and stupid bluestateguy Jan 2014 #12
And of course, you get to decide if the minority students are just??? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #15
Or Lau. Igel Jan 2014 #14
You should fire chronically underperforming teachers. Three or more years msanthrope Jan 2014 #23
Teachers have no property interest in a civil rights violation. I've written extensively msanthrope Jan 2014 #8
Tenure is what attracts good people to teaching. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #18
So Prop 8 never should have been overturned? Is that your argument? That msanthrope Jan 2014 #22
Could you explain, please, how tenure deprives someone of a civil right. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #25
Simple. I documented how.budget-related firings were applied unequally, msanthrope Jan 2014 #26
definitely right wing labor busting reddread Jan 2014 #13
Great idea. Let's make even more lives suck. RufusTFirefly Jan 2014 #16
Schwarzenegger tried to get rid of teacher tenure and Californians voted for it. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #17
They're half right and entirely wrong. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #19
Perhaps my experience was different from the norm. Downwinder Jan 2014 #21
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