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13. This may sound like an anti-union position from a very pro-union guy, but...

Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:28 PM

Jan 2014

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I'm sorry, getting ready for work is not the same as working. My own career actually working for unions is a good case in point. My job creating mailers, brochures, GOTV, independent expenditures, etc, for all of the major unions was quite casual. I was fortunate enough to work in a very, very casual Democrat-run firm. I worked in shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops in the summer, then had to put on socks, jeans and wear a hoodie in the winter.

If I worked in a more formal agency, where the dress code was a suit and tie, would you assume I should be compensated for the extra time each morning -- lots of extra time -- it would take me to don full business regalia? What about the time spent to dry clean and press all these starched collars and shirts? Running the lint roller over my suit coat? Should that be compensated separately? Granted, "suit" jobs are usually salaried, unlike the hourly wage jobs addressed in the op. But still...I'm not sure I can totally disagree with the SCOTUS on this one. Somewhat disagree, maybe. But I guess the Great And Powerful Oz has spoken.

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