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:popcorn: Wilms Jan 2014 #1
Now if only employers would stop requiring unnecessary degrees for those jobs... Viva_La_Revolution Jan 2014 #2
BINGO n/t VWolf Jan 2014 #5
Agreed. Xyzse Jan 2014 #12
For many, a degree means debt. For an employer, debt means control. RadiationTherapy Jan 2014 #14
Excellent point. jsr Jan 2014 #23
A lot of they SAY they do, but they don't, actually. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #15
Not so everywhere. upaloopa Jan 2014 #26
That's true, I was overly-absolute there. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #46
My mom started out with an AA in the early 80's davidpdx Jan 2014 #56
That's been my experience in many cases too penultimate Feb 2014 #76
Yup sakabatou Jan 2014 #22
Not sure about all industry, but in telecom years/experience trump degrees every time.. snooper2 Jan 2014 #39
I completely agree. Skilled trades training is extremely important and a great JaneyVee Jan 2014 #3
Agree, but waiting for the anti-tradesmen chorous to start... cprise Jan 2014 #34
How many PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #41
And ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #40
No, they move the factories instead. alarimer Feb 2014 #74
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #77
Skilled trades training is extremely important AlbertCat Jan 2014 #47
Pounding nails and slinging blocks for a living is a life fullfilling dream most trustfunders never adirondacker Jan 2014 #50
Some of the smartest and most interesting people I have ever made fall in the "skilled trades" cat Yo_Mama Jan 2014 #58
And it's so much easier to control everyone with propaganda. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #59
Exactly right. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #4
True. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #6
I couldn't agree more...... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #7
I think we need to get out of this mindset about extending childhood ebbie15644 Jan 2014 #20
We are aligned..... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #29
Thanks! for the response. I feel alone in this world sometimes, lol ebbie15644 Jan 2014 #60
You know who is great at training programs for skilled trades? Maedhros Jan 2014 #8
I agree but those apprenticeships are hard to come by. ebbie15644 Jan 2014 #18
They are NOW, after decades of government and corporate assault on unions.[n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #24
+1000 frwrfpos Jan 2014 #30
When I was young I applied for both a union apprenticeship and college davidpdx Jan 2014 #55
Education is not necessarily for a vocation, knowledge should be free. dotymed Jan 2014 #9
Ditto all that notemason Jan 2014 #11
Absolutely notemason. dotymed Jan 2014 #62
Oh yes, notemason Jan 2014 #64
+1 CountAllVotes Jan 2014 #63
Excellent points tabasco Jan 2014 #66
When I look at resumes, I rarely look at their school. onehandle Jan 2014 #10
Of course. For some jobs it is, others not. People need all sorts of training. uppityperson Jan 2014 #13
Correct. But people do need good career options even if they don't have a degree. Brickbat Jan 2014 #16
a college education is more than just training for a career. olddad56 Jan 2014 #17
A good base "liberal" education is essential. NOT FOX NEWS warrant46 Jan 2014 #21
I think were are past the tipping point on that one, olddad56 Jan 2014 #33
Learning Latin and French worked for me. warrant46 Jan 2014 #44
And what might that "good career" be, pray tell? LiberalEsto Jan 2014 #19
Oh really, this smacks of hypocricy saidsimplesimon Jan 2014 #25
Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #43
I think, even as children become more sexually active at a younger age, that they are less mature MADem Jan 2014 #27
I have a friend PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #42
She's moving towards "outlier" territory, but nowadays, people hop from job to job MADem Jan 2014 #45
But Congress is needed... Orsino Jan 2014 #28
Been searching desperately for appliance repairmen mainer Jan 2014 #31
All he's talking about is a federal jobs training review? Where are the actual jobs? last1standing Jan 2014 #32
Walmart needs staff plumbers. CHEAP and Pronto! nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #53
That's all fine & dandy if you can swing a hammer Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #35
No matter what field you go into, you have to learn all your life. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #36
This is right on target. It's not an either/or where tech training or post-secondary liberal arts LuckyLib Jan 2014 #71
Boooo! PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #37
If this is true... Dopers_Greed Jan 2014 #38
this has always been true treestar Jan 2014 #48
Progress is our most important product polynomial Jan 2014 #49
True story: Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #51
I received my technical training in the military madville Jan 2014 #52
I don't trust anything that Obama or his pal Arne Duncan have to say about education. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #54
I'm not sure what this has to do with the fact that there are 3 applicants for every job Doctor_J Jan 2014 #57
Maybe not "needed" but ... CountAllVotes Jan 2014 #61
Uneducated people PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #67
This guy is quite the idiot CountAllVotes Jan 2014 #68
Is he going to say every GOP talking point during his presidency? yurbud Jan 2014 #65
He sure has wrung up quite a few Doctor_J Jan 2014 #69
he's doing a lot to prove my suspicion that our only choice in elections is yurbud Jan 2014 #70
I wonder how many of his appointments don't have a college degree. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #72
This is no longer true. alarimer Feb 2014 #73
objectively that is true. There are a number of skilled occupations that pay a lot better than Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #75
"... human beings need bread and roses" suffragette Feb 2014 #78
Meanwhile India and China are pushing their citizens to get advanced degrees in the sciences... NoodleyAppendage Feb 2014 #79
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