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22. How many trials can you have in Italy over the same crime,

Reply to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:26 PM

Jan 2014

this is ridiculous. Tell the Italians to fuck off.

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US will likely extradite Knox if Italy asks [View all] onehandle Jan 2014 OP

I think the case against her is a joke weissmam Jan 2014 #1

Agreed. She won't be extradited. -nt Bonx Jan 2014 #68

If she weren't pretty we wouldn't care? Merlot Jan 2014 #2

What a sick fuck Alan is. DURHAM D Jan 2014 #3

Wow Scairp Jan 2014 #18

Who wants to go to Italy Anyway ? warrant46 Jan 2014 #45

That happens in most countries...the US is quite unique with double jeopardy davidn3600 Jan 2014 #47

Thank you for your awesome answer I couldn't have said it better warrant46 Jan 2014 #52

Sure, if you want to get your head stoved in over your wallet Scairp Jan 2014 #70

My spouse & I visit PR as tourists regularly & have done so for 20 years whathehell Feb 2014 #81

I hear about it all the time Scairp Feb 2014 #107

Really?..What areas did they stay in? whathehell Feb 2014 #108

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jan 2014 #53

Also, not every country bases its system on "innocent until proven guilty." question everything Jan 2014 #62

I believe that also. Better to let the quilty go free than convict an innocent person. Auntie Bush Jan 2014 #72

You really ARE kidding, aren't you? CTyankee Jan 2014 #71

I'm sure they will serve ragu bolognese sauce during stay in jail warrant46 Jan 2014 #73

Have you ever BEEN in Italy? CTyankee Jan 2014 #74

I like Italy for ior all the reasons you mentioned, but in my humble opinion, whathehell Feb 2014 #83

Yes, and that is a different issue entirely. I think Knox is innocent, too. CTyankee Feb 2014 #98

Yes it is, and wouldn't just flip them off entirely either.. whathehell Feb 2014 #100

Funny, I was talking with my ESOL student who is from Benin today and we were discussing CTyankee Feb 2014 #105

Me! Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #110

He retired last year. Helen Borg Jan 2014 #48

I have come to detest Dershowitz... But after defending torture under Bushies*, I can't be surprised hlthe2b Jan 2014 #6

Maybe he is saying that the media never would have made you aware of Knox if she was not pretty? nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2014 #19

Then he should be able to point at an equivalent case that proves his point maxsolomon Jan 2014 #51

You disagree with his statement? leftynyc Jan 2014 #35

It's a sexist statement but I don't think his observation is any different from... Mike Daniels Jan 2014 #41

Absolutely the same thing leftynyc Jan 2014 #42

Yes it is, because he's basically calling her "guilty", saying her support stems ONLY whathehell Feb 2014 #91

That's not actually what he said..He said that her looks were ALL she had whathehell Feb 2014 #85

I'm totally blind and I'm still on her side. Harcourdt Fenton Mud Jan 2014 #43

It still stands to reason that if she weren't young, white and attractive Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #63

I agree with you up until you ascribe "overwhelming support" to her looks whathehell Feb 2014 #90

But Davis wasn't a cause c�l�bre in the national media, was he? Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #112

No, but what would you call OJ Simpson? whathehell Feb 2014 #114

O.J. Simpson was a nationally known football hall-of-famer and public figure Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #122

Of course, and although Amanda Knox was neither of those things, whathehell Feb 2014 #123

"because that's what this is all about"?...What does he base THAT on and whathehell Feb 2014 #79

What a sexist prick. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #4

Hard to believe question everything Jan 2014 #5

Double Jeopardy lobodons Jan 2014 #25

+1 tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #26

It's in the extradition treaty Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #39

Well, then. This should take care of this question everything Jan 2014 #61

I heard one legal analyst say that most extradition treaties require that Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #40

If the U.S. were to ignore a request then Italy would not extradite to the U.S. former9thward Jan 2014 #44

That's a consideration Liberalynn Jan 2014 #46

There have been a number of denied extradition requests between the US and western Europe LanternWaste Jan 2014 #64

We do not have an extradition treaty with Russia, they are under no obligation to return Snowden davidn3600 Jan 2014 #69

The EU denies our requests when there's a death penalty possibility anyway whathehell Feb 2014 #82

Ridiculous a2liberal Jan 2014 #7

As pretty as she is? Beacool Jan 2014 #8

I honestly don't think that was his point leftynyc Jan 2014 #36

This isn't a missing persons case. maxsolomon Jan 2014 #49

Are you deliberately misunderstanding me? leftynyc Jan 2014 #54

Yes it would be nice if America didn't send innocent Black Men to prison. maxsolomon Jan 2014 #55

I think we mostly agree, however, leftynyc Jan 2014 #67

When will you realize that "attention" and "support" are not synonyms? n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #93

This happened in Italy, not the US. Beacool Feb 2014 #76

Yes, I know this was in Italy leftynyc Feb 2014 #80

Oh, I think that attractive people get more press, no doubt about it. Beacool Feb 2014 #86

Attention is one thing -- Support is another..She is NOT supported in Italy or the UK whathehell Feb 2014 #92

I am so glad that you see it that way. I don't know if I could handle it if my favorite poster StevieM Jan 2014 #58

Ahhhh, thanks for the compliment. Beacool Feb 2014 #75

Agree wholeheartedly, but as another poster said, after you've defended torture whathehell Feb 2014 #84

What are you talking about??? Beacool Feb 2014 #87

I'm talking about Dersh whathehell Feb 2014 #88

OK Beacool Feb 2014 #89

Yep, she's going into hiding... derby378 Jan 2014 #9

Beat me to it musiclawyer Jan 2014 #11

Sometimes I think DU is populated by the brain damaged. maxsolomon Jan 2014 #50

This isn't news, its opinion Orangepeel Jan 2014 #10

Yes, and the opinion of an ass. elleng Jan 2014 #14

That's putting it nicely! nt adirondacker Feb 2014 #97

Not good davidpdx Jan 2014 #12

alan dershowitz is an ass, elleng Jan 2014 #13

She was acquitted in Italy Seedersandleechers Jan 2014 #15

the problem is...that is after she was convicted the first time... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #77

Her conviction was overturned...that's been translated as an acquittal, but it need not be alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #102

No, because the us government won't hand her over based on that clown court. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #16

Then the US would have to extradite some CIA agents. atreides1 Jan 2014 #17

I was thinking the same think. go west young man Jan 2014 #30

How about not extraditing her because the charges are a bunch of bullshit? blackspade Jan 2014 #20

Thank you..The charges against her and her former BF ARE bullshit..No extradition. whathehell Feb 2014 #94

my understanding.... cab67 Jan 2014 #21

How many trials can you have in Italy over the same crime, doc03 Jan 2014 #22

How many trials ? dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #34

Italy can try her and find her "guilty" until hell freezes over -- She's not going anywhere whathehell Feb 2014 #99

You've got it slightly wrong dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #103

How have I -- and several others here, it seems -- "got it slightly wrong"? whathehell Feb 2014 #111

Rudy Guede's DNA was found in the victim, on the victim, on her bra, etc. etc..... groundloop Jan 2014 #23

Check out the movies "The Starmaker"or "Malena" go west young man Jan 2014 #31

Hey Alan, don't forget lobodons Jan 2014 #24

Oh wait! Let's try that again. Okay, now she's guilty. tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #27

This seems to have worked differently than the OJ trial. Kablooie Jan 2014 #28

The US has an extradition treaty with Italy BluegrassDem Jan 2014 #29

I don't think your correct... go west young man Jan 2014 #32

The Italinas seem to exboyfil Jan 2014 #56

The judicial system of the US is, like all others, imperfect, but we do employ something whathehell Feb 2014 #117

The Guardian interview. go west young man Jan 2014 #33

That's historic - prior to yesterday's verdict dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #37

Considering that Italy is the main country stopping the drug used in lethal injection executions... NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #38

What I don't know is whose hurt feelings are driving this train in Italy... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #57

While this IS a clear case of double (triple, quadruple?) jeopardy. . . . BigDemVoter Jan 2014 #59

No, it's not even One And A Half Jeopardy. Furthermore, closeupready Jan 2014 #65

They have a law Sgent Feb 2014 #116

So now Italy is North Korea. Now I really have heard everything, closeupready Feb 2014 #118

It isn't really a clear case of double jeopardy...the supposed acquittal alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #104

Ah, ok-- thanks for the clarification! BigDemVoter Feb 2014 #113

Pretty white women have a considerable amount of privlage when it come to Exultant Democracy Jan 2014 #60

Maybe, but then again, so do White MEN, whathehell Feb 2014 #95

I dont think the so-called "pretty white girl privilege" has really worked in Amanda's favor davidn3600 Feb 2014 #106

I agree and have pointed that out in other posts. n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #109

IIRC, this is the same prosecutor described in the book "Monster of Florence" hedgehog Jan 2014 #66

Exactly..Robert Mignini..The turd spent time in prison for "abuse of power" in whathehell Feb 2014 #96

WTF is wrong with Dershowitz? Why is he projecting his obviously biased whathehell Feb 2014 #78

He's a self-promoting bootlicker jsr Feb 2014 #119

That sounds as reasonable as anything else that comes to mind. n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #120

maybe wait until someone in the DOJ or State Dept makes a statement re: extradtion. Last mulsh Feb 2014 #101

Italy has to make a request, and the State Dept could deny without explanation jsr Feb 2014 #121

That would be both unjust and insane--but I take any Alan D. statement tblue37 Feb 2014 #115