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Comrade Grumpy

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21. Most people appear fine with keeping the Redskins name. So am I.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 04:15 PM
Jan 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_name_controversy#Public_opinion_polls

Despite vocal and legal action from Native American groups and scholars, the vast majority of people surveyed on the subject in prior years did not find the name offensive. Following the 1992 Super Bowl protests, The Washington Post posted a survey in which "89 percent of those surveyed said that the name should stay." In a study performed in 2004 by the National Annenberg Survey, Native Americans from the 48 continental U.S. states were asked "The professional football team in Washington calls itself the Washington Redskins. As a Native American, do you find that name offensive or doesn't it bother you?" In response, ninety percent replied that the name is acceptable, while nine percent said that it was offensive, and one percent would not answer.[75][76] The problem of individuals claiming to be Native American when they are not is well known in academic research, limiting the value of public opinion polls of the mascot issue.[77] It is a particular problem when non-natives claim Indian identity to gain authority in the debate over sports mascots.[78]

More recent national polls show continued support for retaining the name, although lower (79%) than previously.[79] The opinion of Redskin fans continues to favor keeping the name. Comments made by fans on the web in response to news stories tend to dismiss the controversy as political correctness, and that the name refers to nothing except the football team.[80]

In July 2013 The Washington Post conducted a phone survey of people living in the DC Metro Area. No questions about ethnicity were asked, only whether respondents supported the continued use of the Redskins name and if they were sports fans in general and fans of the team in particular. 66% of the respondents supported retention of the name, while 82% said that if the name did change, they would continue to support the team. A small majority (56%) of those that would keep the name also thought that the word "redskin" was not an appropriate way to describe a Native American Indian.[81]

Similar results came from a poll of residents of the DC Metro Area commissioned by the Oneida Indian Nation of New York and conducted in October 2013 which found that although sports fans want to keep the name, 59% also say Native Americans have a right to feel offended by the term redskins and 44% say that when they learn the term is defined as 'offensive' by the dictionary, they are more likely to support changing the team name. Additionally, most people (66%) say that if Snyder meets with Native American leaders, he should not refer to them as "redskins" because the term is inappropriate.

There are basic issues with the reliability of public opinion polls that overshadow their value in many cases. There has been a decline in the willingness of people to participate, now down to about 10%, so there is no way of knowing whether there is any systematic bias in the results. Survey methods influence the results, with those done by traditional mail over-sampling the elderly, and telephone surveys done using only land-lines under-sample the young, who only have cell phones.[82]

Steve Russell, an enrolled Cherokee citizen and associate professor of criminal justice at Indiana University, states that both SI and Annenberg's samples of "self-identified Native Americans... includes plenty of people who have nothing to do with Indians".[83]
Louis Gray, president of the Tulsa Indian Coalition Against Racism and an Osage Indian: “You wouldn’t [take a poll] with any other race. You wouldn’t have African-Americans vote to decide whether or not any sort of racial epitaph would be offensive.” [84]

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He just scewed up brush Jan 2014 #1
has roger taken one too many hits to the head? niyad Jan 2014 #2
or not enough hits off the bong. olddad56 Feb 2014 #69
Gosh, I wonder why . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #3
Washington Fork-tongued White Eyes Quasimodem Jan 2014 #17
Also not bad. another_liberal Jan 2014 #32
How about the Washington Gridlock? Pathwalker Feb 2014 #71
That would certainly be popular . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #73
The Lobbyists BlueStreak Feb 2014 #76
Oh, brother... I could see maybe making a case for "Braves" (aka Atlanta Braves) but no way that hlthe2b Jan 2014 #4
right to the top of the list wilt the stilt Jan 2014 #5
I can't wait until they play the Arizona theaocp Jan 2014 #6
Don't you mean the San Francisco Chinks? KamaAina Jan 2014 #16
Says it all. mac56 Jan 2014 #7
Ummmm..... OK, but it's "Redskins", not "Warrior Savages" (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #26
I think the point still stands, don't you? mac56 Jan 2014 #37
I guess the cartoonist thought "Redskins" wasn't offensive enough to make the point (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #50
How good of you to share your expertise. mac56 Jan 2014 #54
Goodell is employed by the team owners KeepItReal Jan 2014 #8
As an American Indian (I prefer this term) LibGranny Jan 2014 #9
He's going to look like an even bigger moron when this ad runs on his Super Bowl: Auggie Jan 2014 #10
Excellent Ad ! lunasun Jan 2014 #12
no money for Super Bowl ad time riverwalker Jan 2014 #34
To steal a line from Airplane! iandhr Jan 2014 #11
Don't call me Shirley! Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #20
Change the name to the Washington Yellowskins to honor the Chinese immigrants who Fred Sanders Jan 2014 #13
What a nasty fucking asshole lunasun Jan 2014 #14
But you're HONORING him....! mac56 Jan 2014 #19
What an idiot dbackjon Jan 2014 #15
Original AP link for those not supporting the Huff & Puff alp227 Jan 2014 #18
Most people appear fine with keeping the Redskins name. So am I. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #21
the Annenberg Survey is hogwash riverwalker Jan 2014 #35
And how many were Native American?... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #51
Bull SH!T!!! diabeticman Jan 2014 #22
Redskins Fan bpj62 Jan 2014 #23
... n2doc Jan 2014 #24
Nice bpj62 Jan 2014 #25
Supporting keeping a racial slur as a team name doesn't make them rednecks. JoeyT Jan 2014 #29
Meh. If this is top of anyone's outrage list they are in pretty good shape. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #27
Bill O'Reilly? Is that you? n/t JoeyT Jan 2014 #30
Yeah. Busted. (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #31
Flippant lunasun Jan 2014 #48
mr goodall, accompany your wife to the cosmetic counter next trip...ask the girl behind the counter Tikki Jan 2014 #28
BULL. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #33
What's wrong with "Washington Natives", or "Washington Indians"? Hulk Jan 2014 #36
Neither Native or Indian are considered derogatory terms whereas Redskin is. Those would be more okaawhatever Jan 2014 #39
Maybe we could refer to the team as the "Washington Indigenous".... Hulk Jan 2014 #43
I would chip in for the new uniforms just to watch hannity and rush freak out! nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #44
Why not the Washington Bandits to honor the politicians and lobbyists in the District of Columbia. olddad56 Jan 2014 #41
Ahhh...that would be perfect. Their uniforms could be orange jumpsuits or prison stripes. nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #46
This is Goodell's wife. Need I say more? JRLeft Jan 2014 #38
OMG That explains a lot. nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #40
He and Daniel Snyder are typical right wing ass holes. JRLeft Jan 2014 #42
If a race of people find a term offensive to them, then it is probably offensive to them. olddad56 Jan 2014 #45
It's one asshole, this one. JRLeft Jan 2014 #47
Meet Dan Snyder's Team Of Legal Advisors JRLeft Jan 2014 #49
The way to hurt these guys is to stop buying the merchandise. It won't hurt the players or okaawhatever Jan 2014 #56
won"t work bpj62 Jan 2014 #57
Oh man. That stinks. Oh well.......... okaawhatever Jan 2014 #58
that is even better, then the other team owners would want to put pressure on the owner. olddad56 Feb 2014 #66
why doesn't everyone just stop referring to the team as the Washington Redskins? olddad56 Feb 2014 #67
"he's been talking to Native American leaders"... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #52
Yes, his friends who say "I have Cherokee in me on my great grandmother's side..." Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #60
Yeah, I have heard awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #62
time for a compromise RedstDem Jan 2014 #53
how would he feel about the Washington Nigg*rs...? mike_c Jan 2014 #55
how about every team in the NFL adopt a racial slur for their team name and get mascots to match. olddad56 Feb 2014 #68
I think Washington Whoremongers would more accurately honor the city Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #59
why do these rich assholes have to hang onto their racism annm4peace Feb 2014 #61
Doubly offensive. Orsino Feb 2014 #63
I hope someone asks Goodell and Snider if "Washington Hebes" would be OK. Scuba Feb 2014 #64
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ money talks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ dembotoz Feb 2014 #65
I guess one doesn't have to be a GOP congressman to be out of touch Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #70
Or we could just admit there's no tribe in DC and come up with something better... jmowreader Feb 2014 #72
The great thing about this country thefool_wa Feb 2014 #74
The same way that "Pale Greed-Monkeys" honors white people... Aristus Feb 2014 #75
I was a Warner "Warrior" and a Sacajawea Jr High "Savage". My grade school and jr high. brewens Feb 2014 #77
He makes $29.5 million a year indie9197 Feb 2014 #78
The Onion's take on the issue: QC Feb 2014 #79
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