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Redfairen

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47. LA Times: "Why the new CBO report on Obamacare is good news"
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:41 PM
Feb 2014

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79163149/

The CBO projects that the act will reduce the supply of labor, not the availability of jobs. There's a big difference. In fact, it suggests that aggregate demand for labor (that is, the number of jobs) will increase, not decrease; but that many workers or would-be workers will be prompted by the ACA to leave the labor force, many of them voluntarily.

As economist Dean Baker points out, this is, in fact, a beneficial effect of the law, and a sign that it will achieve an important goal. It helps "older workers with serious health conditions who are working now because this is the only way to get health insurance. And (one for the family values crowd) many young mothers who return to work earlier than they would like because they need health insurance. This is a huge plus."

The ACA will reduce the total hours worked by about 1.5% to 2% in 2017 to 2024, the CBO forecasts, "almost entirely because workers will choose to supply less labor--given the new taxes and other incentives they will face and the financial benefits some will receive."  That translates into about 2.5 million full-time equivalents by 2024--not the number of workers, because some will reduce their number of hours worked rather than leaving the workforce entirely.

The overall impact on the community will be muted, moreover, because most of that effect will be seen at the lowest levels of the wage-earning scale. The effect will be "small or negligible for most categories of workers," the CBO says, because there will be almost no impact on workers who get their insurance from their employers or who earn more than 400% of the federal poverty line (for a family of three, that's $78,120), the point at which eligibility for federal premium disappears. 

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Oh my. PeteSelman Feb 2014 #1
uh, no azureblue Feb 2014 #65
You're saying they're NOT going to run with this? PeteSelman Feb 2014 #72
Yes, but I believe that a lot of people will start their own businesses now that many of them can factsarenotfair Feb 2014 #2
That was one of my big concerns when I looked at leaving corporate America and opening up my own okaawhatever Feb 2014 #20
Also, I think a lot of people will be taking early retirement for the same reason. n/t factsarenotfair Feb 2014 #21
Yep! Got 4 more months till the school year ends and me and the wife are RETIRED! nt kelly1mm Feb 2014 #79
That's wonderful! factsarenotfair Feb 2014 #84
Exactly Doctor_J Feb 2014 #96
Possibly, but..... Chakaconcarne Feb 2014 #3
That is not going to happen. former9thward Feb 2014 #24
BUNK! Because NOW those people get FREE wellness care...and will now VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #37
So what? former9thward Feb 2014 #42
Do what? How does this have to do with what I just said? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #43
So when are they going to blow off? former9thward Feb 2014 #48
they are going...but most still don't understand what they have.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #51
funny how this headline looks a lot worse than the data it presents 0rganism Feb 2014 #4
My thoughts too Org. AllyCat Feb 2014 #18
There are a lot of over age 50 types who work for insurance. I know a few women who work (one as a okaawhatever Feb 2014 #23
Right! and now that they don't need the job for the insurance anymore... 0rganism Feb 2014 #29
Surprised by that? The media in America today has not interest in educating the American public. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #32
more outraged than surprised, unfortunately 0rganism Feb 2014 #33
Yep. PsychGrad Feb 2014 #25
^^^This^^^ geardaddy Feb 2014 #45
That's not good news going into 2014 election year bigdarryl Feb 2014 #5
Obama never campaigned on single payer. From Fact Check.org: okaawhatever Feb 2014 #27
Something I have pointed out to other people on the Left over and over again... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #39
I think many here know the truth and want to keep the lie going. Look at how many posters were okaawhatever Feb 2014 #44
You would think....but there are far too many here that just cannot stand the man VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #50
Hillary and health care reform go back to Bill's first years in office. It had a massive pushback okaawhatever Feb 2014 #54
there is also that built in function to allow States to create their own Single Payer System VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #57
I'm glad you reminded me of the state singlle=payer. I'll bet some of the better managed states do okaawhatever Feb 2014 #60
He campaigned on the public option Doctor_J Feb 2014 #97
And what proof do you have? Obama hasn't publicly supported single payer since a campaign speech in okaawhatever Feb 2014 #98
Well Doctor_J Feb 2014 #99
Well, the initial comment was on single payer but you've moved to the public option, stating okaawhatever Feb 2014 #101
But it sounds like the jobs are not gone, rather the employees quit. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #6
Exactly. RedSpartan Feb 2014 #11
"Low-wage workers are the most likely to drop out of the workforce..." DURHAM D Feb 2014 #7
Precisely. jsr Feb 2014 #8
+1 Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #10
No I believe they're referring to a two income household where one person works just for the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #31
yes.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #40
They're working for the insurance. jeff47 Feb 2014 #87
Are they saying businesses do not need the employees they will lose? aquart Feb 2014 #9
read close rtracey Feb 2014 #12
"some workers may forgo employment, while others may reduce hours" liberal N proud Feb 2014 #13
... Wait Wut Feb 2014 #16
I'm a low wage worker... davidthegnome Feb 2014 #14
here's an idea for a book renate Feb 2014 #80
The content tells a very different story than the headline does. mac56 Feb 2014 #15
Americans Are Lazy Bums DallasNE Feb 2014 #17
You need to read this report again... Demenace Feb 2014 #81
But Churn Was Not Part Of The CBO Analysis DallasNE Feb 2014 #92
No, it says people were working just for the insurance coverage. jeff47 Feb 2014 #88
The freedom loving TPGOP should be all over this lobodons Feb 2014 #19
It may rtracey Feb 2014 #30
how ordinary Americans would react to those changes by employers. AlbertCat Feb 2014 #22
There's a difference between two million workers and two million jobs Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #26
Thanks for summarizing the article so clearly. Sadly, we won't see anything as accurate as your okaawhatever Feb 2014 #36
Remind me again - how many unemployed in the US? Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #28
My situation exactly. Did not want to shell out 15k for family HI. Now with ACA our premiums kelly1mm Feb 2014 #82
Congratulations! Blue Idaho Feb 2014 #86
thank you Washington Post for spinning information to make the ACA sound bad. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #34
Yeah, remind me again who bought WaPo? Jeff Bezos? Champion of underpaid slave labor? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #38
I'm not that up on events--didn't know that. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #75
Of course there is ... it's called 'click bait' ... brett_jv Feb 2014 #46
didn't know there was a specific name for it. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #74
I didn't know that. I hope msm or left leaning media will pick up these stories. That trick okaawhatever Feb 2014 #77
I agree.....sooooo sick of this culture of mass produced lies. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #78
Wow!! Bring on the propaganda!! You can sure tell the Post has changed hands. loudsue Feb 2014 #35
Sue, you fell for the propoganda. It doesn't say fewer jobs, it says fewer workers. Meaning, the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #41
ooops. loudsue Feb 2014 #52
LA Times: "Why the new CBO report on Obamacare is good news" Redfairen Feb 2014 #47
That's the key. We'll see if the tbaggers get it, or care. Hoyt Feb 2014 #68
Guidelines for LBN are to use the EXACT HEADLINE. Why did you change it to support a right-wing meme okaawhatever Feb 2014 #49
The WaPo has changed their headline since I started this thread. Redfairen Feb 2014 #55
Okay, thanks. I'll clear my objections. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #56
The damage has been done, and I suspect WaPo knew that. Several media outlets have spoken of okaawhatever Feb 2014 #63
something is rotten in the state of denmark FSogol Feb 2014 #53
nothing is rotten in the state of Denmark anasv Feb 2014 #59
Whoosh. FSogol Feb 2014 #61
oh, gosh, I had no idea anasv Feb 2014 #67
How is it offensive? It means, "something is wrong?" FSogol Feb 2014 #69
I got it. Those acquainted with theatre or Shakespeare know the reference. A quick explanation: freshwest Feb 2014 #94
Thanks. Hard to believe someone here thinks it is a slur on the Danes. FSogol Feb 2014 #95
Yeah, that was an odd argument. Or just a reason to argue, not discuss. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #100
nonsense anasv Feb 2014 #58
Not rolling in money but my wife and I are retiring in our mid 40's due to the ACA kelly1mm Feb 2014 #83
as Josh Marshall says - it will reduce employment like Social Security reduced employment. n/t OKNancy Feb 2014 #62
^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ TomCADem Feb 2014 #93
WTF rtracey Feb 2014 #64
Brilliant analysis. factsarenotfair Feb 2014 #66
not extending unemployment is going to play a huge role in the numbers game n/t Herself Feb 2014 #70
After obtaining coverage, some workers may forego employment ..." ??? Myrina Feb 2014 #71
They are talking about potential early retirees who, before ACA, would continue working kelly1mm Feb 2014 #85
Maybe more parents will make a choice the_sly_pig Feb 2014 #73
Could this mean increased wages to compete for the workers? ebbie15644 Feb 2014 #76
Medicare for All would solve this. You take a Republican plan and look what you get. Idiocy and grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #89
Would solve what? Theres no problem here to be solved in regard to the actual story. phleshdef Feb 2014 #90
Well, what I read was grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #91
Should read "2 million fewer will be FORCED to work" Doctor_J Feb 2014 #102
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