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Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:01 PM

Feb 2014

She is acknowledging the validity of the tapes, but I think it would be far more problematic if they were to lie about it. If you ever have a chance to listen to any of the released Oval Office tapes from the Nixon, Johnson, or Kennedy administrations, you will notice discussions equally as frank and impolitic. Yes they are diplomats and professionals, but they're also people. This is how people act behind closed doors. I'm not condoning them meddling in another country's affairs, I'm just saying that the flap over what was said is much ado about nothing.

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US Diplomat Apologizes For Cursing Ally [View all] jakeXT Feb 2014 OP

Yea, corporate media is all over this bullshit Iliyah Feb 2014 #1

Why Keefer Feb 2014 #2

That's not very diplomatic, Ms. Nuland. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #3

Victoria Nuland, ex neocon, married to a neocon, ... Mass Feb 2014 #4

Not to mention moronic Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #6

Do we have any doubts that was the case? Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #7

Why, it has got to be the fault of the NSA? Demenace Feb 2014 #11

NSA runs the Information Assurance Directorate (IAD) Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #12

The same guys who made encryption unsafe ? jakeXT Feb 2014 #15

Russia says: Anything you can do, I can do better. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #36

The news story was that it was a private conversation, not that it was a secure 24601 Feb 2014 #57

And we have Reuters reporting that it was an unsecure cell phone call. Not much NSA can do 24601 Feb 2014 #58

What makes her an "ex" neocon? They should have cleaned all these people out TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #16

Maybe now is the opportunity to dump another Kagan fellow after Patraeus jakeXT Feb 2014 #18

Yup--this was the shit going on behind Obama's back--no wonder he didn't trust TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #21

Good point. Mass Feb 2014 #45

A Clown why do they have so many Neocons in Power? warrant46 Feb 2014 #50

�a new low in Russian tradecraft.� ??? aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2014 #5

Why is the U.S. government blaming the Russians for leaking it instead of .......... dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #8

Excellent question! another_liberal Feb 2014 #26

Telling look inside... Xolodno Feb 2014 #9

And they know the right guy for the job jakeXT Feb 2014 #10

It sounds like one of those catty, gossipy conversations that people have with people they. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #37

The question is are they paying, and if so are they getting their money's worth ? jakeXT Feb 2014 #43

The Russians most definitely are paying. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #52

They cite a 1994 agreement, I wonder what would happen if the Russians tried that in the US backyard jakeXT Feb 2014 #54

You mean like Cuba? They already did. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #55

Sounds like they were clueless initially, although I'm not an expert on Cuba jakeXT Feb 2014 #56

US Diplomats should never, ever speak like this even in private. Those cables leaked a couple Sunlei Feb 2014 #13

Folks, for your education, this is why every nations has its own version of the NSA... Demenace Feb 2014 #14

much ado about nothing heaven05 Feb 2014 #17

True. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #38

The issue isn't what she said, but her ineptness in not using an encrypted phone. Psephos Feb 2014 #53

I think I can do her job better. Ash_F Feb 2014 #19

Diplomats vdogg Feb 2014 #20

It's probably not the swear word, but by apologizing she is basically validating the authenticity jakeXT Feb 2014 #23

True vdogg Feb 2014 #29

Do you think it's proper for us to be choosing what government Ukraine will have? another_liberal Feb 2014 #25

Proper? no. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #27

Such disgraceful, counterproductive precedents do not make it the smart thing to do . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #30

No vdogg Feb 2014 #31

Blaming Russia for what our diplomat said? another_liberal Feb 2014 #32

No vdogg Feb 2014 #33

You are still missing the point. another_liberal Feb 2014 #34

That's not how I would communicate, if I were a diplomat aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2014 #28

Yes. We need an international protocol on internet surveillance with government's working togeth JDPriestly Feb 2014 #39

Maybe a diplomat should understand the meaning of the word "diplomatic." thesquanderer Feb 2014 #22

For a different point of view on this story . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #24

latest attempt to give another country the government we want it to have dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #40

I have not seen this story getting any coverage. another_liberal Feb 2014 #44

The Russians leaked it? Beacool Feb 2014 #35

People on DU seem to think Puttypoo isn't capable of doing anything bad davidpdx Feb 2014 #41

Putin is former KGB, that should be all people need to know about him. Beacool Feb 2014 #48

One thing you seem to have over looked . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #46

True, but there's no doubt that Russia would have released it if they had the tape. Beacool Feb 2014 #49

I would not put it past them. another_liberal Feb 2014 #51

Merkel labels US diplomats' words on EU, Ukraine 'totally unacceptable' jakeXT Feb 2014 #42

Nuland on leaked talk with Pyatt: I am not commenting on diplomatic conversations jakeXT Feb 2014 #47